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Stee6043 said:
What makes you think the American public will demand "more"? I'm genuinely interested to hear perspective on this. Of course it's a humanitarian crisis but why this one, why now, why us? We could have sent our sons and brothers to die in Africa decades ago to fight far worse humanitarian atrocities, no?

Depending on where you get your news, allegedly public support for joining NATO in Ukraine was barely 50% AFTER Russia annexed Crimea. Before that it was like 20%?
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This has nothing to do w NATO. That’s the excuse. It’s the age old reason. Territory. Expansion. Money (oil pipeline). Strategic defense. And because he can. He knows the US has a mentally compromised limp-wristed president. The American public has war fatigue.

HOWEVER. As the media continues the 24 hr a day cycle of showing women and children crying, bombing civilians, and the eventual (but yet) human catastrophe due to starvation and lack of medical care the American public will demand more. Not boots on the ground, but a massive transfer of lethal weapons, jets, intelligence and logistical support, food and supplies, funding and more isolation of Putin. Lastly, covert ops and the CIA on the ground in Moscow.

Just keep the women and babies crying on tv. Political pressure will continue to mount and as we near the election Brandon will do something intended to garner support but he’ll Phuck it up.

Add the looming economic outlook ie cost of living and fuel prices at home the public will hold the Dems responsible. The Dems could very easily launch us into a war in order to distract the sheeple.

BTW what happened to COVID?
 
El Capitan said:
This has nothing to do w NATO. That’s the excuse. It’s the age old reason. Territory. Expansion. Money (oil pipeline). Strategic defense. And because he can. He knows the US has a mentally compromised limp-wristed president. The American public has war fatigue.

HOWEVER. As the media continues the 24 hr a day cycle of showing women and children crying, bombing civilians, and the eventual (but yet) human catastrophe due to starvation and lack of medical care the American public will demand more. Not boots on the ground, but a massive transfer of lethal weapons, jets, intelligence and logistical support, food and supplies, funding and more isolation of Putin. Lastly, covert ops and the CIA on the ground in Moscow.

Just keep the women and babies crying on tv. Political pressure will continue to mount and as we near the election Brandon will do something intended to garner support but he’ll Phuck it up.

Add the looming economic outlook ie cost of living and fuel prices at home the public will hold the Dems responsible. The Dems could very easily launch us into a war in order to distract the sheeple.

BTW what happened to COVID?
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who's COVID?
 
El Capitan said:
This has nothing to do w NATO. That’s the excuse. It’s the age old reason. Territory. Expansion. Money (oil pipeline). Strategic defense. And because he can. He knows the US has a mentally compromised limp-wristed president. The American public has war fatigue.

HOWEVER. As the media continues the 24 hr a day cycle of showing women and children crying, bombing civilians, and the eventual (but yet) human catastrophe due to starvation and lack of medical care the American public will demand more. Not boots on the ground, but a massive transfer of lethal weapons, jets, intelligence and logistical support, food and supplies, funding and more isolation of Putin. Lastly, covert ops and the CIA on the ground in Moscow.

Just keep the women and babies crying on tv. Political pressure will continue to mount and as we near the election Brandon will do something intended to garner support but he’ll Phuck it up.

Add the looming economic outlook ie cost of living and fuel prices at home the public will hold the Dems responsible. The Dems could very easily launch us into a war in order to distract the sheeple.

BTW what happened to COVID?
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This makes sense but why this crisis, why now, why us? There's been a war raging in the South Sudan since 2014. Allegedly 400,000 killed so far. 150 civilians have died in Ukraine and we're outraged now? The international response is likely far more complex than we'll ever know. But we should all be smart enough to agree that it has absolutely nothing to do with the loss of human life.

I don't think the American public will demand anything in Ukraine. Show us the last grateful nation we brought war to.
 
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Okay, everyone can breath a sigh of relief, the hand puppet has this. The spike in oil and gas prices are all Putin's fault - #Putinspricehike. Even Jen Pisssaki and Kameltoe say so. It has to be true.
 
Help me understand something here, and I am no expert on any of this. They are saying no no fly zone, and I understand the reasons behind it. Rather, we will supply them with military jets, which they have been "trained on/in".

Would any of you give the keys to your boat to a guy across the street who needs a boat to protect his family, who tells you "I was trained how to use that type of boat"?
 
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mrsrobinson said:
Help me understand something here, and I am no expert on any of this. They are saying no no fly zone, and I understand the reasons behind it. Rather, we will supply them with military jets, which they have been "trained on/in".

Would any of you give the keys to your boat to a guy across the street who needs a boat to protect his family, who he tells you "I was trained how to use that type of boat"?
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I guess maybe if it was a 'Dunkirk' type of situation and I was laid up and couldn't help.

I know this is a different scenario, but an association our company belongs too, some of the associate members volunteered their own boats to supply the Bahamas, more specifically Abaco, directly after the hurricane, not knowing they would have enough fuel to return (pumps shut down in the deviation). They loaded their boats to the hilt with water, and basic supplies making multiple runs.
 
The lies continue…


“Despite reassurances from the White House that it is doing nothing to discourage oil companies from opening new drill sites, President Joe Biden's allies in Congress just months ago pressured oil executives to decrease outputs because of climate change, raising questions about the Democratic Party's strategy to lower prices for consumers.”


“In late October, for example, the House Oversight and Reform Committee called in the CEOs of Exxon, BP, Shell, and Chevron to explain what steps they are taking to produce less oil and gas, with Rep. Hank Johnson (D., Ga.) alleging that "the world can't wait" any longer. At the time, gas prices were hovering around a 10-year high.”


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That station that kept raising diesel prices everyday and was up to $5.299 lowered its price to 4.99 yesterday. Place was packed. I bet the line was 1/2 hour. Well played.
 
Stee6043 said:
This makes sense but why this crisis, why now, why us? There's been a war raging in the South Sudan since 2014. Allegedly 400,000 killed so far. 150 civilians have died in Ukraine and we're outraged now? The international response is likely far more complex than we'll ever know. But we should all be smart enough to agree that it has absolutely nothing to do with the loss of human life.

I don't think the American public will demand anything in Ukraine. Show us the last grateful nation we brought war to.
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Sudan? C’mon ma’an! They don’t effect the global economy one cent.

It’s not virtue. It’s money, power and control bro.
 
my3sons said:
That station that kept raising diesel prices everyday and was up to $5.299 lowered its price to 4.99 yesterday. Place was packed. I bet the line was 1/2 hour. Well played.
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I've been watching this ploy for decades (let's say 1974 on when it really hurt ME). Up 2 bucks, screams. Down a buck, "Well, that's more like it"....... New Plateau.
We are the helpless sheep, no matter where it's coming from. A wise one said, "End oil futures trading by making the dweebs take delivery before they can sell, and all of this BS will end immediately. " In fact, do the same thing to the real estate industry, and watch how new builds "moderate".
 
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