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WalterCarl said:
Hello Folks,

I have a few ??. 1.) Has anyone seen intermittent overheat on one or both of the main engines? Hasn't done it this year yet, but, last year it happened a few times when I was cruising at close to wide open throttle for long periods. The port engine would overheat causing the alarm would go off and I'd have to shut it down. I'd wait 30 seconds and start it back up again and it would cool down through the natural process. It's almost like something was getting stuck in the heat exchanger system somewhere and then settling down once I shut it off. Anyway, I could very likely have pieces of old impeller or something in there. Thought I'd give a shout out to the group though.

2.) Every so often I find around 2 cups of diesel fuel behind the forward bulkhead circular access plate to the forward bilge. Since there doesn't appear to be any pressure behind the leak, I suspect it's at or near the tank fitting, the fill line, tank vent hose or similar. Does anyone have any ideas or a schematic to help me find out where the access is to each of the 3 tanks? Thanks in advance.

Walter
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Can’t say as I’ve had either of those issues Walter although I only have about 30 hours of wheel time experience on my 510. The experienced captain that came with me on my 20 hour trip to get the boat to our home port highly recommended I keep the load on the engines at or below 85%. 85% for me is around 2050 rpms or so to avoid overheating/over-dutying the engines. He didn’t say never to go WOT, he just said keep it to a minimum. I’ll be interested to hear what others have to say.
 
My starboard engine was getting hot; just under 220(alarm is set at 223). Took the end caps off the heat exchangers and scraped the crud off also sucked 4/5 gal of muratic acid through the system as well as changing out the engine thermostat. All those efforts brought it down to a livable 195. Still need to take the exchangers off and do a full blown cleaning. That will be for October or so. Now the port engine is nice and cool running at 180.
 
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A question of style
When did SeaRay change the 510 DA styling from the tried and true classic Sun Dancer day cruiser look to the more European look. You know with the big windows and so on.
I'm thinking 2006.
 
bbrinks said:
2009 is when the solid glass cockpit came into play. I love the look.
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Hey; you know what they say in sales; love the one your with. The Linda Jean is looking damned fine. Cleans up real nice. Now she's a bit tempermintal as of late. She got my ass stuck in Ft Myers Florida with a nasty turbo seal seeping oil all over the engine bay. Oil ran down the side of the motor on to the out put shaft and got flung from one end to the other. But I got a way to at lest press on with the trip. Turbo itself is ok, just the outer seal. There were several other issues she sprung on me; bow thruster failed, port tranny will not shift in to reverse, auto pilot is intermitant to mention the high lights.
Moral of the story; you can't do enough pre planning or shake down outings that will stop crap from happening. Bottom line; it's a boat.
 
I did my first night outing last night. None of the lights on my gauges worked. I’m guessing a fuse. Anyone know where a fuse to these gauge lights might be? I checked all the fuses in the compartment by the captains feet. Everything was good there. All the gauges work, just no lights. Thank you!
 
bbrinks said:
I did my first night outing last night. None of the lights on my gauges worked. I’m guessing a fuse. Anyone know where a fuse to these gauge lights might be? I checked all the fuses in the compartment by the captains feet. Everything was good there. All the gauges work, just no lights. Thank you!
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Mylights didn't work at all. Spent way to much time and phone calls trying to figure out the how and whys of the SeaRay wiring dude. Just started out from scratch with power take offs from the run light switch.
Behind your switch pannel to the right of the captains chair there is a little drop down tranformer 24 volt to 12 volt that feeds the lights. It's mounted against the bulk head. It's a small sucker. That little transformer is most likely the culperate. It's tied to the spoiler dimmer switch as well.
I just nixed the whole deal and rewired from the running lights switchit to a solid state 24/12 transformer then to a reostat controlled by a rocker switch I put where the washer switch once was. Wired my new power lines tot the green wired feeding the instrument lights. This power line also controls the new led back lights for the switch board. Sounds like a bunch but at least it works and is 100% functional. Got the back lights and reostat from Flounder Pounder.
 
stephens013 said:
Mylights didn't work at all. Spent way to much time and phone calls trying to figure out the how and whys of the SeaRay wiring dude. Just started out from scratch with power take offs from the run light switch.
Behind your switch pannel to the right of the captains chair there is a little drop down tranformer 24 volt to 12 volt that feeds the lights. It's mounted against the bulk head. It's a small sucker. That little transformer is most likely the culperate. It's tied to the spoiler dimmer switch as well.
I just nixed the whole deal and rewired from the running lights switchit to a solid state 24/12 transformer then to a reostat controlled by a rocker switch I put where the washer switch once was. Wired my new power lines tot the green wired feeding the instrument lights. This power line also controls the new led back lights for the switch board. Sounds like a bunch but at least it works and is 100% functional. Got the back lights and reostat from Flounder Pounder.
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Great info. Thank you! Can you explain the transformer location a bit better for me and how best to access it?
 
So we set out from Ft Walton Beach on our way to Bahama. Ok fine. first thing is the bow thruster failed at first stop. Worked fine in the morning when we shoved off; not so much after an 8 he run. Ok; I can deal. Then we get off St Peters Burg and Noted a lag in the starboard motor. When we got to Ft Myers I opened up the engine bay to a mess. The soft side seal of the turbo leaked oil down the side of starboard motor on to the out put drive. Though oil all over the place. Oh; and getting into the slip at night; strange ass place with close quarters the port trany wouldn’t go into reverse. Just loved the shit out of that predicament.
I spent the day cleaning and talking to Catapiller guys as well as trany guys. Got reassured that if the turbo was free and not showing play I could press on; just be messy. The tranny issue some how went away. Guess it was hot after a long run. Anyway; off we go headed to marathon Key. Well we ended up on a USBoat tow rope. That starboard turbo let go just past Marco Island. Spent three hours on the hook bobbing around in 2 ft seas; pretty much sucked.
so luckily the US BOAT guys got me into the Marco Island Yacht Club. My god this place has a dress code for their beach bar.
now to find a turbo for a 3196 and some one with the wear with all to help us out of here.
 
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bbrinks said:
Great info. Thank you! Can you explain the transformer location a bit better for me and how best to access it?
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take the switch plate next to the Catains chair off. That transformer should be against the gunwale. It’s a little duffer. Hey; replace it with new transformer and see what happens.
 
stephens013 said:
So we set out from Ft Walton Beach on our way to Bahama. Ok fine. first thing is the bow thruster failed at first stop. Worked fine in the morning when we shoved off; not so much after an 8 he run. Ok; I can deal. Then we get off St Peters Burg and Noted a lag in the starboard motor. When we got to Ft Myers I opened up the engine bay to a mess. The soft side seal of the turbo leaked oil down the side of starboard motor on to the out put drive. Though oil all over the place. Oh; and getting into the slip at night; strange ass place with close quarters the port trany wouldn’t go into reverse. Just loved the shit out of that predicament.
I spent the day cleaning and talking to Catapiller guys as well as trany guys. Got reassured that if the turbo was free and not showing play I could press on; just be messy. The tranny issue some how went away. Guess it was hot after a long run. Anyway; off we go headed to marathon Key. Well we ended up on a USBoat tow rope. That starboard turbo let go just past Marco Island. Spent three hours on the hook bobbing around in 2 ft seas; pretty much sucked.
so luckily the US BOAT guys got me into the Marco Island Yacht Club. My god this place has a dress code for their beach bar.
now to find a turbo for a 3196 and some one with the wear with all to help us out of here.
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I’m sorry to hear about your troubles. Hopefully you find the help you need and can have an uneventful remainder to your trip. Please post what solutions you end up with.
 
This is my solution to back ground switches and instrumentation lighting. The actual back lights come from Flounder Pounder. They are held on the the back of the stitch panels with aluminum ducting tape. They just plug up to one another; have Y junctions and so on. Pretty nifty; guys at FP will explain. The dimmer control switch is a rocker I installed next to the windshield vent switch; where the windshield washer switch once was. Trigger power is from a splice off of the nav run lights. Final feed for the instrument lights is to the green wire that feeds all the instrument lights. Unlike the SeaRay set up; these lights are independent from the spoiler dimmer system.

That said; I have pretty much the same set up for my over heads. A 24/12 power supply from the panel switch, to a dimmer with the switch on the panel then wired in to the common wiring in the spoiler over head. Works fine. I like the ease of 12 volts rather than 24; compatible components are easier to come by. Guess 24 volt system was needed back in the day in order to get intensity from those big ass halogen bulbs.

My apologies about all the hanging wires. The result of new antenna instillations and equipment pruning prior to my departure.
 

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stephens013 said:
So we set out from Ft Walton Beach on our way to Bahama. Ok fine. first thing is the bow thruster failed at first stop. Worked fine in the morning when we shoved off; not so much after an 8 he run. Ok; I can deal. Then we get off St Peters Burg and Noted a lag in the starboard motor. When we got to Ft Myers I opened up the engine bay to a mess. The soft side seal of the turbo leaked oil down the side of starboard motor on to the out put drive. Though oil all over the place. Oh; and getting into the slip at night; strange ass place with close quarters the port trany wouldn’t go into reverse. Just loved the shit out of that predicament.
I spent the day cleaning and talking to Catapiller guys as well as trany guys. Got reassured that if the turbo was free and not showing play I could press on; just be messy. The tranny issue some how went away. Guess it was hot after a long run. Anyway; off we go headed to marathon Key. Well we ended up on a USBoat tow rope. That starboard turbo let go just past Marco Island. Spent three hours on the hook bobbing around in 2 ft seas; pretty much sucked.
so luckily the US BOAT guys got me into the Marco Island Yacht Club. My god this place has a dress code for their beach bar.
now to find a turbo for a 3196 and some one with the wear with all to help us out of here.
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Sorry to hear about your trouble but sounds like you are taking it all in stride. At lease it is the starboard turbo as the access is pretty good. I just replaced both of my turbos last fall along with new aftercoolers all as a preventative measure. The boat just rolled 2000 hours and that equipment was all original so figured it was time. The Cat Part# for a rebuilt turbo is 0R7172. Also J&H Turbo Service, Inc in Greenville, Ms has new turbos for the price of a Cat reman. www.jhdiesel.com. I went with the Cat reman as they are a block from my office and I wanted that piece of mind. Its a pretty straight forward process just have to drain the coolant and manhandle those heavy azz turbos. Hope you get it fixed up and get on your way. On the bright side you are stuck in a pretty nice place.
 
Avenger said:
Sorry to hear about your trouble but sounds like you are taking it all in stride. At lease it is the starboard turbo as the access is pretty good. I just replaced both of my turbos last fall along with new aftercoolers all as a preventative measure. The boat just rolled 2000 hours and that equipment was all original so figured it was time. The Cat Part# for a rebuilt turbo is 0R7172. Also J&H Turbo Service, Inc in Greenville, Ms has new turbos for the price of a Cat reman. www.jhdiesel.com. I went with the Cat reman as they are a block from my office and I wanted that piece of mind. Its a pretty straight forward process just have to drain the coolant and manhandle those heavy azz turbos. Hope you get it fixed up and get on your way. On the bright side you are stuck in a pretty nice place.
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Hey at least I found a part and all the associated stuff. Least that's what I'm told and "checks in the mail". figured getting the whole turbo wound be the best option considering the situation. Got no way to determine if a cartrige would do the job. Did you have any issues getting your core charge? Of course I'm away from home and in a place that's helpful but less than useful. Tomorrow I make it to a auto parts house for tools and oil. Figure change the oil and filter to avoid additional issues. Having to do everything via taxi sucks. Wonder how the Uber dude will feel about tooting 10 gal of oil and assorted hard wear to and from my droke dick yacht.

so the port side lost command of the transmiiton during our failed attempt to make it back to port. Thought letting it cool completely would restore positive control so on and so forth. Well that didn't happen. Twin Disk guys are going to make a house call for the tune of $800. Not sure if they can do a fix in one shot but I'm pretty much at the will of others. Hell, I'm happy folks at least calling me back.

All this reminds me of the joke; other than that how did you enjoy the play Mrs. Lincoln?
 
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stephens013 said:
Hey at least I found a part and all the associated stuff. Least that's what I'm told and "checks in the mail". figured getting the whole turbo wound be the best option considering the situation. Got no way to determine if a cartrige would do the job. Did you have any issues getting your core charge? Of course I'm away from home and in a place that's helpful but less than useful. Tomorrow I make it to a auto parts house for tools and oil. Figure change the oil and filter to avoid additional issues. Having to do everything via taxi sucks. Wonder how the Uber dude will feel about tooting 10 gal of oil and assorted hard wear to and from my droke dick yacht.

so the port side lost command of the transmiiton during our failed attempt to make it back to port. Thought letting it cool completely would restore positive control so on and so forth. Well that didn't happen. Twin Disk guys are going to make a house call for the tune of $800. Not sure if they can do a fix in one shot but I'm pretty much at the will of others. Hell, I'm happy folks at least calling me back.

All this reminds me of the joke; other than that how did you enjoy the play Mrs. Lincoln?
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Yes the taxi thing is less than convenient. I did the complete turbo as well it was just a considered a cat reman. Returning the core was no issue. Sounds like you have the makings of a good YouTube Channel. Get that thing fixed and keep making way to the Bahamas.
 
Avenger said:
Yes the taxi thing is less than convenient. I did the complete turbo as well it was just a considered a cat reman. Returning the core was no issue. Sounds like you have the makings of a good YouTube Channel. Get that thing fixed and keep making way to the Bahamas.
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Thank goodness I'm well stocked with high quality tequila
 
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Insult to injury; now I'm having issues with the port head. I mean really?

My wife blames it on my dear sainted mother. I got dear old Mom along for a grand Bahamas's send off. Spousal unit has iluded to the issue that maybe the issues we are experiencing are the grand old lady's way of saying she would rather be spread off the Galvison coast instead of anyplace that ain't American. more implicitly any place that wasn't Texas. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but dear old mom had some strong mo jo in her day. Might be her karma is casting a shadow over my good intentions.
 
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Mystery solved. Hey at least I have a definite cause to deal with.
 

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Can't tell from the pic what happened to the turbo? The blades look pretty good in the pic
 
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