In TX? He is lucky she didn’t let him have a piece of lead in his chest
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This was discussed 'HEAVILY' in both renewal classes (8 years CC) with the same instructor.If I were teaching that class my comments would have been something like this: "You people are here to learn how to shoot and to shoot accurately. We're going to also cover when you can shoot someone and when you legally shouldn't. I imagine for most of you the thought of having to use your gun to shoot another person is reprehensible; and it should be. Taking another person's life is not an easy thing to do and I hope in this class you will learn when you're justified in doing so and when you're not."
You could be right. If it came down to my life or someone elses I don't think I'd have a problem defending myself. I hope I never have to find out but if it ever happens it would be because the other person put themselves in that position.Hey Boatman, I've given a lot of thought to what you wrote and I think I have to take a position that's counter to what the class members answered to what the instructor questioned.
Think about it from this angle....if your average Joe on the street was asked that question, and were told to give an honest answer, I would bet most people would answer "yes" that they would have a problem shooting someone with a weapon. To most people, the thought of shooting and possibly killing someone would be the most repulsive thing they could imagine.
I suspect the people in your class, likely not knowing each other and not wanting to appear like a wimp, would answer the way they did.
If I were teaching that class my comments would have been something like this: "You people are here to learn how to shoot and to shoot accurately. We're going to also cover when you can shoot someone and when you legally shouldn't. I imagine for most of you the thought of having to use your gun to shoot another person is reprehensible; and it should be. Taking another person's life is not an easy thing to do and I hope in this class you will learn when you're justified in doing so and when you're not."
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And yes, the simulators are great. We had to do a few scenarios each year at qualifications and yes your heart rate goes up and palms get sweaty. <snip>
no have never done that but have heard stories...lolHave you participated in force on force training with airsoft or simunition? The stress factor goes up when you have someone shooting back at you. BTW, siminution is not painless.
Take whatever time you need to get used to it. I carried a S&W model 60 as a backup gun for many years so I had to qualify with it. We shot a standard course, firing 50 rounds from 7.5yards out to 50 yards. I usually fired somewhere in the mid-80's. I learned early on if you get all your shots from the 7.5 and 10 yard ranges right in the X ring, and kept most of the 25 yard shots in center mass, the 50 yard shots didn't hurt you so bad if there was a flyer or two.I have not done force on force, I’d like to. My short range shots are average. My .38 has been tough getting used to. It gets the job done but I need more time with it.
Have you participated in force on force training with airsoft or simunition? The stress factor goes up when you have someone shooting back at you. BTW, siminution is not painless.
Yep. we went from 2 yards to 25. perfect score was 300. i was usually around 280 but like you said, be on spot close up so you have room for error from further backTake whatever time you need to get used to it. I carried a S&W model 60 as a backup gun for many years so I had to qualify with it. We shot a standard course, firing 50 rounds from 7.5yards out to 50 yards. I usually fired somewhere in the mid-80's. I learned early on if you get all your shots from the 7.5 and 10 yard ranges right in the X ring, and kept most of the 25 yard shots in center mass, the 50 yard shots didn't hurt you so bad if there was a flyer or two.
I had a salesman pick me up at a Texas airport once in a pickup truck. I had never met him before. So we are driving along and he says his business card is in the glove box and to grab one. I open it and there had to be 7 hand guns in there, just laying on top of each other …. I said is there a problem around here….he said not if we have thoseAnd where in that post did it say she had a weapon? Where? Or it it assumed in cowboy land everyone carries?
IDK about that. Here in Chicago concealed carry has been good since 2013. Most of their gun ordinances have been shot down by the courts. However I will grant you that the population leans liberal and probably doesn’t see the “need” for guns.
That is the beauty of force on force training. First time through you are kinda shitting yourself trying to solve the problem. A few more iterations and you are noticing the poorly framed doorway as you are shooting the bad actor. Stress Inoculation is a real thing.Yes, with simunition, and you are absolutely right on both points. For me the biggest revelation was how much I had underestimated the impact of adrenaline and the fight or flight effects on my decision making.
My first day of training the instructor asked if anyone felt they would have a hard time shooting someone. Nobody raised their hand but then he said 'good, cause if you do then you need to leave here now'
I fargin lived the dream for a time. Could get away fast enough.Chicago “leans” liberal? That’s an understatement. Seen the politicians they elect? No offense but Chicago politicians are commie racist bastards.
Cigarette please.