MonacoMike
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- Sep 15, 2009
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- Boat Info
- 2000 Cruisers 3870
8.2 Mercs
- Engines
- 85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
260hp Alpha 1
I submit it should be engineers but suspect it is a battle between the legal department and marketing department. From BoatUS:
"No, You Go First…
A move by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) to simplify the confusing tow vehicle specifications has become complicated. The idea is to provide the tow vehicle buyer with a guide, beginning in 2013, for comparing one tow vehicle's capacity to pull a boat and trailer with other tow vehicles using the same standards. For the past five years, truck manufacturers met to find common ground on how to provide a real, rather than hyped, towing capability for both cars and trucks. Operating under the name SAE J2807, consumers would use these new standards to see actual towing capacity for every vehicle.
Ford says it's applied it to their all-new vehicles but adds, not all of the 2013 vehicles are in that category. General Motors says it won't release their specs until Ford releases theirs. Chrysler, builder of Dodge Ram trucks, says it won't, either. Nissan is only making the standards available for the 2013 Pathfinder because that vehicle is all-new and future vehicles will be rated in subsequent years. Honda vehicles with a tow capacity of more than 3,500 pounds are using the standard now while Toyota has been offering J2807 since 2012. So, an industry-wide towing measurement, agreed to by everyone, isn't happening. Besides, each manufacturer says the idea is voluntary. The real reason? Nobody wants to "telegraph to the competition," as one tow vehicle maker admitted, what their vehicles can do. Some J2807 figures have shown a drop of 200-300 pounds in towing capacity for specific vehicles.
Jack Pokrzywa, SAE Manager of Ground Vehicle Standards, tells BoatUS, "We do know from our experience that standards level the playing field and we hope that the value of this standard will bring all the parties together over time.""
http://www.boatus.com/magazine/2012/december/BoatUS-Reports-Crescent-City-Comeback.asp
"No, You Go First…
A move by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) to simplify the confusing tow vehicle specifications has become complicated. The idea is to provide the tow vehicle buyer with a guide, beginning in 2013, for comparing one tow vehicle's capacity to pull a boat and trailer with other tow vehicles using the same standards. For the past five years, truck manufacturers met to find common ground on how to provide a real, rather than hyped, towing capability for both cars and trucks. Operating under the name SAE J2807, consumers would use these new standards to see actual towing capacity for every vehicle.
Ford says it's applied it to their all-new vehicles but adds, not all of the 2013 vehicles are in that category. General Motors says it won't release their specs until Ford releases theirs. Chrysler, builder of Dodge Ram trucks, says it won't, either. Nissan is only making the standards available for the 2013 Pathfinder because that vehicle is all-new and future vehicles will be rated in subsequent years. Honda vehicles with a tow capacity of more than 3,500 pounds are using the standard now while Toyota has been offering J2807 since 2012. So, an industry-wide towing measurement, agreed to by everyone, isn't happening. Besides, each manufacturer says the idea is voluntary. The real reason? Nobody wants to "telegraph to the competition," as one tow vehicle maker admitted, what their vehicles can do. Some J2807 figures have shown a drop of 200-300 pounds in towing capacity for specific vehicles.
Jack Pokrzywa, SAE Manager of Ground Vehicle Standards, tells BoatUS, "We do know from our experience that standards level the playing field and we hope that the value of this standard will bring all the parties together over time.""
http://www.boatus.com/magazine/2012/december/BoatUS-Reports-Crescent-City-Comeback.asp
