So you got yourself COVID vaccine. Think you can’t get COVID? Think again.

On a positive note, a guy in Africa cured his Covid by drinking Zebra sperm. Since this report came out, there are long lines outside many U.S. zoos. A zoo keeper has been quoted: “ the Zebra’s are excited and have promised to be gentle”.
 
trflgrl said:
Many of us can read charts, and also use critical thinking skills to find and read source data in context. As noted previously by others, information presented in VAERS warrants attention, and I recommend folks use it directly to validate anything circulating in the wild. Search criteria I used for first report: location of US/Territories and a selection of 4 symptoms that appeared to be closest matches for descriptors in the image you shared. I left the default selections in all remaining fields to include every vaccine, every vaccine manufacturer, every age/gender of subject, any date of onset following vaccination (from 1 to Over 120 to Unknown), any number of doses (from 1 to 7 to Unknown) and so on, to match as closely as possible "all other vaccines combined (30 years of usage)."
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For the second report, I changed one field to select for COVID19 vaccine only, and found it accounts for well over half the total number of reported events of each symptom. Based on that single consideration, I agree it may be cause for huge concern. However, there may be additional variables to consider, as well, a key one being whether a recent change in awareness/usage of VAERS has caused substantially higher reporting of COVID19 vaccine-related events than for other vaccines. That wouldn't change how much investigation should be done for the COVID19-related events, but it could be very significant when attempting to compare to other vaccines individually or combined. View attachment 116602

And from the its own statement on interpreting the information:

When reviewing data from VAERS, please keep in mind the following limitations:
VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.
"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.
A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.
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Bottom line: VAERS isn't helpful as a tool to describe how safe any vaccine is. (Any source that doesn't have or can't point to relevant supporting information demonstrating causative/contributive relationship isn't helpful.)

Case in point: RBB's unfortunate heart event. (Happy to hear you've recovered!!!) Its timing raises my suspicion--RBB felt miserable for a couple of weeks before the second shot. Did dose 1 cause those symptoms? Did dose 1 create a cardiac situation of some sort that didn't exist/were those early symptoms related to the heart attack? Did dose 2 exacerbate any effects from the first, and/or did it straight up cause the heart attack? As a lay person, I wouldn't say absolutely yes, nor would I say absolutely no. It's the kind of thing I'd expect to see in VAERS as "x happened, then y happened" and ask experts to sort.
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Very good post, but wouldn't you say all this is a bit much for a virus with such a high survivability rate - and that's without proper treatment? The 800k or whatever "covid" deaths they are calling it these days, is from when most people received ZERO treatment (and motorcycle accidents, anyone really who died was classified a covid death).

To me, the data in VAERS is very much cause for concern. Especially when I personally know fully vaxxed people who have tested positive more times then the people in my household. Shouldn't that be the opposite, where the vaccine prevents one from getting the virus? At this point, I think it is very obvious the vax does not prevent transmission or infection. So if you get the jab, your gambling with getting it's side effects - which you won't get if you don't get the jab....unless you look at "shedding", which is a whole separate topic itself...
 
firecadet613 said:
Very good post, but wouldn't you say all this is a bit much for a virus with such a high survivability rate - and that's without proper treatment? The 800k or whatever "covid" deaths they are calling it these days, is from when most people received ZERO treatment (and motorcycle accidents, anyone really who died was classified a covid death).

To me, the data in VAERS is very much cause for concern. Especially when I personally know fully vaxxed people who have tested positive more times then the people in my household. Shouldn't that be the opposite, where the vaccine prevents one from getting the virus? At this point, I think it is very obvious the vax does not prevent transmission or infection. So if you get the jab, your gambling with getting it's side effects - which you won't get if you don't get the jab....unless you look at "shedding", which is a whole separate topic itself...
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I seriously doubt, in fact I know, your premise has nothing to do with what all this is about.

Nothing to do with public health.

The former CDC director today said “…. Every 6 months…” so the vaccine scam is now, although you won’t hear this just yet, about ongoing semiannual vaccinations.

All aimed at a virus that’s >99% survivable. Definitely not about public health wouldn’t you say?
 
firecadet613 said:
Very good post, but wouldn't you say all this is a bit much for a virus with such a high survivability rate - and that's without proper treatment? The 800k or whatever "covid" deaths they are calling it these days, is from when most people received ZERO treatment (and motorcycle accidents, anyone really who died was classified a covid death).

To me, the data in VAERS is very much cause for concern. Especially when I personally know fully vaxxed people who have tested positive more times then the people in my household. Shouldn't that be the opposite, where the vaccine prevents one from getting the virus? At this point, I think it is very obvious the vax does not prevent transmission or infection. So if you get the jab, your gambling with getting it's side effects - which you won't get if you don't get the jab....unless you look at "shedding", which is a whole separate topic itself...
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If they received zero treatment how were their cases counted. People on here have said they had covid weren't tested and no treatment.
 
Iprof said:
If they received zero treatment how were their cases counted. People on here have said they had covid weren't tested and no treatment.
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I had Covid. Positive test. Zero treatment except for nutrition and supplements. I’m 62 years young.

Many countless deaths caused by other events were attributed to Covid because they “tested” positive. This includes motorcycle accidents etc.

Hospitals received significant Covid subsidies so everyone “had” Covid although they died of other causes.
 
“ April 8: I would remind him that anytime health care intersects with dollars it gets awkward. Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital, you’ll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.”

- Senator Scott Jensen.
 
Iprof said:
If they received zero treatment how were their cases counted. People on here have said they had covid weren't tested and no treatment.
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If they weren't tested, they weren't a "positive case". Many people are like that. Or take a self test that isn't tracked.

But, test positive and go to your doctor. They will tell you to take tylenol for your fever and get rest. Come to the ER if and when you can't breathe. If you reach that point, you're as good as dead. To me, that is the definition of ZERO TREATMENT.

All those images you see of packed hospitals is due to no treatment until it's too late. Then it's get them on a vent with Remdesivier as their 02 is likely very low as it's most likely pneumonia at this point. Unless your healthy / no genetic issues and you beat it off, or started to treat it with the Zelenko Protocol or similar...

But how about this. Let's start doing that with other illnesses / viruses (no treatment) and see how the general population fares...
 
El Capitan said:
“ April 8: I would remind him that anytime health care intersects with dollars it gets awkward. Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital, you’ll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.”

- Senator Scott Jensen.
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You can quote fact in this thread until you're blue in the face and they'll tell you to just get your jab jab jab...
 
El Capitan said:
“ April 8: I would remind him that anytime health care intersects with dollars it gets awkward. Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital, you’ll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.”

- Senator Scott Jensen.
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Fake news to quote your cult leader.

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Again, “any” info, not necessarily accurate information, is what they will spew to support their conspiracy theory.
 
Dani-Lu said:
Again, “any” info, not necessarily accurate information, is what they will spew to support their conspiracy theory.
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Its not a conspiracy if there are scientific papers, doctor testimonies, and admissions from the vaccine manufacturers.

Then apply critical thinking and sprinkle a little logic and any reasonable person comes to the conclusion that these so-called vaccines are ineffective and make no impact on infection cases.
 
El Capitan said:
Its not a conspiracy if there are scientific papers, doctor testimonies, and admissions from the vaccine manufacturers.

Then apply critical thinking and sprinkle a little logic and any reasonable person comes to the conclusion that these so-called vaccines are ineffective and make no impact on infection cases.
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How can a proactive treatment that greatly reduces severity of Covid, and greatly reduces deaths from Covid, be considered ineffective and having no impact?
 
El Capitan said:
Its not a conspiracy if there are scientific papers, doctor testimonies, and admissions from the vaccine manufacturers.

Then apply critical thinking and sprinkle a little logic and any reasonable person comes to the conclusion that these so-called vaccines are ineffective and make no impact on infection cases.
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Why would the sheep want to think or use logic when the government will do it for them…
 
Dani-Lu said:
How can a proactive treatment that greatly reduces severity of Covid, and greatly reduces deaths from Covid, be considered ineffective and having no impact?
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Because it was sold as stopping the spread. It was sold that once we had the vaccine, we could get "back to normal." Niether has happend -- thus, ineffective.
 
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