So you got yourself COVID vaccine. Think you can’t get COVID? Think again.

[Creekwood]

Wearing a mask to protect others is a fallacy. Even N95 masks do nothing to help with this. All the rule makers want you to do is cover your face. They don't care with what. Think about that. There is a lot more going on here than fighting a virus. My primary jobs for most of my life have been to protect you and others. Protecting you from the virus is not my job, it's yours. Just like with peanut allergies etc. If you are in a high risk group, you need to change your life, not everyone's life around you.

You have obviously never had a kid with a severe peanut allergy. Think of it this way as an example. You, personally, have a group of close friends you have known all your life. Then for some reason you develop a severe allergy to peanuts. I would hope your close friends might make some minor accommodations to their eating habits so that they can still hang out with you. If they said f-you buddy, this is your problem, not ours, would that be cool with you? Its exactly the same with peanut allergies and kids and their friends.

Yes its personal, because my son (now 25) developed a peanut allergy at about 7 or 8 and a very few a-hole parents had that attitude (not to my face, only through hate mail to the school). They didn't seem to realize that it was a friend of their kid that had the allergy and they didn't seem to care about the horrible life lesson they were giving their own kids.

So it is actually a pretty good comparison to equate masks with peanut allergies. Science aside, it is the attitude that is troubling to hear.

 

[Golfman25]

You have obviously never had a kid with a severe peanut allergy. Think of it this way as an example. You, personally, have a group of close friends you have known all your life. Then for some reason you develop a severe allergy to peanuts. I would hope your close friends might make some minor accommodations to their eating habits so that they can still hang out with you. If they said f-you buddy, this is your problem, not ours, would that be cool with you? Its exactly the same with peanut allergies and kids and their friends.

Yes its personal, because my son (now 25) developed a peanut allergy at about 7 or 8 and a very few a-hole parents had that attitude (not to my face, only through hate mail to the school). They didn't seem to realize that it was a friend of their kid that had the allergy and they didn't seem to care about the horrible life lesson they were giving their own kids.

So it is actually a pretty good comparison to equate masks with peanut allergies. Science aside, it is the attitude that is troubling to hear.

I think you're misconstruing the adjustments a kid and his friends need to make vs. society as a whole. We took a bunch of the baseball boys to Five Guys (hamburger place with open bags of peanuts to munch on). As we got out of the car, one kid was afraid because he had the peanut allergy. When he told us, we said ok, and off to some other place we went, without the peanuts. What we didn't do, was protest Five Guys to get rid of their peanuts.

It's the same with a mask. If I see you without a mask, I will chose to stay away because the risk to my health from covid is greater than many people. I won't shame you into masking up.

 

[El Capitan]

Do you get the “regular” Flu vaccine?


Like a lot of people on this site, I’m old enough and have a couple health conditions that potentially put me at higher risk for a bad outcome.

That said, I refuse to live in fear and hid away indoors.

I’m not gonna be stupid about things, and not getting a vaccine when I can would be the height of stupidity.

Nope. I do not get the “regular “ flu vaccine. And no, I don’t get the flu. I’m 61 and lift 3x week.
I’m in hospitals weekly for work, I’m exposed to all kinds of bugs in hospitals, specifically in the units. I speak w nurses and dr’s almost daily.

I have 3 clinical cardiology credentials.

The COVID vaccine is incredibly dangerous. Nobody seems to understand that because the fear of this virus is greater. Shame.

 

[tc410]

“Incredibly dangerous?” Wow.... do tell Dr. El Capitan.

Might be the funniest, most exaggerated statement I’ve ever read on CSR - and there have been a lot!

 

[Carpediem44DB]

I got my first Moderna injection today, I've never had a bad reaction to a medication or vaccine in 59 years, I don't religiously get a yearly flu vaccine and rarely contract a seasonal flu. I've been teaching face to face since august and managed to avoid the vid but I figured it's just easier to go along with the heard on this one and conform. My wife is happier and the school administrator that writes my paycheck wont have to pester me.

 

[Woody]

I got my first Moderna shot today also. I could have had the Phizer vaccine back in December but decided that my wife and I shouldn't get the same one...just in case.

I help take care of my 98yo Aunt in assisted living facility. It was one year on March 6 since I was allowed inside the facility to see her. Not only did they keep everyone out but about 1/3 the time she was locked down in her own apartment, meals and everything else were delivered to her by people in 'space suits'(her description). She said it's like being in jail. They didn't lose anyone to covid, maybe once it's over it won't seem so bad.

They're just now starting to open up visitation, if I'm vaccinated I'll actually be allowed into her apartment.

 

[Carpediem44DB]

I think there will be thousands on thousands of wonderful reunions coming up, a very bright side of this rather dark period in history. We haven’t seen my wife’s folks since Christmas of 2019 and they live just 75 miles down the road. They were so freaked out and scared shitless by the media that they just hunkered down hard. Looking forward to having them aboard the new boat and do some catching up real soon.

 

[Golfman25]

The COVID vaccine is incredibly dangerous. Nobody seems to understand that because the fear of this virus is greater. Shame.

Come on dude. You're making a fool of yourself now. There is no evidence that it's "incredibly dangerous." Some people having side effects doesn't make it "incredibly dangerous." What is your evidence?

 

[OllieC]

All this aside, its nice walking around in Florida without mask nazis everywhere. People just out enjoying themselves. When you walk into a restaurant, you mask up, however when you're there, it seems everyone for the most part has them off and if they get up, they do without one. Here at our resort in Naples, I run into multiple people of all ages cramming into the elevator without a mask. Everyone seems polite about it. Refreshing...
I fly back today and go back to fear mongering covid limited lockdown hell.

 

[northern]

I think there will be thousands on thousands of wonderful reunions coming up, a very bright side of this rather dark period in history. We haven’t seen my wife’s folks since Christmas of 2019 and they live just 75 miles down the road. They were so freaked out and scared shitless by the media that they just hunkered down hard. Looking forward to having them aboard the new boat and do some catching up real soon.

Until government state you are exempt from all the restrictions and free to travel the world as one did 2 year ago there will be people that feel "Why should I get vaccinated if governments do not remove restriction from those vaccinated" In Canada the government has said as far as I can tell vaccinated people will not be exempt from any restrictions. Based on not lifting restrictions one may wonder if governments do not know how effective the vaccine is.

 

[El Capitan]

Here you go. Believe what is convenient for you, go ahead, keep your head in the sand, but the medical community vs medical establishment (ie instituitions funded by this virus market place) are well aware of the dangers and many will admit off the record that no way in hell are they taking it. There's tons out there than MSM will not discuss nor are physicians free to discuss for loss of licensure.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-risks-of-rushing-a-covid-19-vaccine/

https://sorendreier.com/dr-sucharit-bhakdi-the-covid-vaccine-is-the-biggest-experiment-ever-done/

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...e-effect-that-surfaced-in-covid-vaccine-trial

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253

 

[Golfman25]

Here you go. Believe what is convenient for you, go ahead, keep your head in the sand, but the medical community vs medical establishment (ie instituitions funded by this virus market place) are well aware of the dangers and many will admit off the record that no way in hell are they taking it. There's tons out there than MSM will not discuss nor are physicians free to discuss for loss of licensure.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-risks-of-rushing-a-covid-19-vaccine/

https://sorendreier.com/dr-sucharit-bhakdi-the-covid-vaccine-is-the-biggest-experiment-ever-done/

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...e-effect-that-surfaced-in-covid-vaccine-trial

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253

None of that is evidence that the vaccine is "incredibly dangerous." Conjecture and opinion isn't evidence. It raises possibilities and concerns, but there is zero evidence at this point. Got anything done after approval?

 

[Creekwood]

Here you go. Believe what is convenient for you, go ahead, keep your head in the sand, but the medical community vs medical establishment (ie instituitions funded by this virus market place) are well aware of the dangers and many will admit off the record that no way in hell are they taking it. There's tons out there than MSM will not discuss nor are physicians free to discuss for loss of licensure.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-risks-of-rushing-a-covid-19-vaccine/

https://sorendreier.com/dr-sucharit-bhakdi-the-covid-vaccine-is-the-biggest-experiment-ever-done/

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...e-effect-that-surfaced-in-covid-vaccine-trial

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253

Like have said before, I totally don't get why people try to pass on misinformation to try to convince people that COVID vaccines are dangerous. I don't understand the motivation.

And as for the statement that "There's tons out there than MSM will not discuss nor are physicians free to discuss for loss of licensure." That is a true statement. Those "tons" of things not reported by MSM and doctors out there are lies, misinformation, and unsupported conspiracy theories. That is why the MSM (including the right and left MSM) won't discuss it - because its lies, misinformation and unsupported conspiracy theories. And Doctors won't spout lies either, for "fear of loss of licensure", but not for the reason you say. They are professionally obligated to not, and legally liable if they do. Unlike anonymous internet posters on a boating forum that can spew whatever crap they want.

So name the Doctors that are telling you this, or call up the MSM and tell them you want to be interviewed because you have the real truth and you have the proof of it. Or maybe I will do it on your behalf - I will call Fox News and tell them "I have information from a reliable source that these vaccines are dangerous. El Capitan on Club Sea Ray, has told us all that........" LMFBO

 

[MrHappy]

^^^. Had to look up LMFBO. Thought it might mean something else. One never knows in this world.

 

[El Capitan]

None of that is evidence that the vaccine is "incredibly dangerous." Conjecture and opinion isn't evidence. It raises possibilities and concerns, but there is zero evidence at this point. Got anything done after approval?

Neither any evidence the vaccine is effective. You didn’t read the outcomes in those articles.

Doesn’t matter to me. Many of us in healthcare know what goes on in the OR, and the truth about drugs and vaccines. It is ....all a best guess. Why medicine is an art, not a science.

 

[Creekwood]

Neither any evidence the vaccine is effective. You didn’t read the outcomes in those articles.

Doesn’t matter to me. Many of us in healthcare know what goes on in the OR, and the truth about drugs and vaccines. It is ....all a best guess. Why medicine is an art, not a science.

Well if I have to have a Doctor decide on my health care, I’ll take the one that knows that medicine is science and not the one that thinks it’s art.

 

[Golfman25]

Neither any evidence the vaccine is effective. You didn’t read the outcomes in those articles.

Doesn’t matter to me. Many of us in healthcare know what goes on in the OR, and the truth about drugs and vaccines. It is ....all a best guess. Why medicine is an art, not a science.

"Best guess" based on studies is a whole lot different than "incredibly dangerous."

 

[BEH]

I can’t believe that El Capitan has any kind of medical position in the USA.
Maybe he is the one that takes the garbage out.
Sure is lots of it coming out of his mouth, or maybe I should say his postings!

 

[alnav]

I've been convinced for a while that El Capitan is a bot. Merely a snippet of malicious Chinese or Russian computer code. A good malware cleanse would probably take care of it.

 

[techmitch]

Neither any evidence the vaccine is effective. You didn’t read the outcomes in those articles.

Doesn’t matter to me. Many of us in healthcare know what goes on in the OR, and the truth about drugs and vaccines. It is ....all a best guess. Why medicine is an art, not a science.

Frankly, I'm not even sure it's an Art. DIL is a NP at a large health care provider/hospital/conglomerate in the mid-Atlantic area with her own office/staff etc.
I asked her last weekend after Sunday dinner how her new "practice" was going.
She said it's been really tough with all of the virtual appointments at home and traveling back and forth to the office to do the in person appointments.

I asked if she could bring her car down to the shop so I could "practice" on it.
That didn't go so well, but still crack's me up.