Thank you for passin' the cheese.

skibum

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Jul 30, 2007
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Perry Hall, MD
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2005 Sundancer 260
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I just wanted to thank everyone for contributing to my first ever piece of government cheese.

Last Friday I took my old hauling truck to the dealer and got a cool $4650 for it. Just 3 days prior to the announcement of the cash for clunkers program, I had contacted a local recycler about hauling it off to the scrap yard. It was going to cost me $50. We couldn't coordinate a time for them to come by while I was home to sign over the title, so I told them that I would call back in a week after I knew what my work schedule would be. I got pretty busy and didn't have time to call them back to make the arrangements. Then our "wonderful" government brought out the cheese platter. I played around on the CARS web site, and found several models of new cars that would qualify my truck for the $4500 rebate. There are nice used trucks all over the place around here, so I decided that all I needed was something that was reliable, got decent mileage, and had ample space for me, the admiral, 2 kids, and the usual amount of stuff that we drive around with. I ended up with a black 2009 Nissan Sentra. Its a pretty nice little car.

Doing the math, I paid $15,900 for my truck back in 1994. It had 386,340 miles on it when I pulled it onto the lot to trade it in. I got the $4500 CARS rebate and the dealer gave me another $150 for "scrap value". So, that old truck ended up costing me $11,250 when all was said and done. That worked out to a total cost of 2.9 cents per mile to own the truck. I was the only person to ever touch it with a wrench, not counting the body work that had to be done after I got rear ended about 7 years ago. I put 3 water pumps, 6 distributor caps and rotor sets, 6 sets of spark plugs, 3 sets of wires, 1 exhaust system (Y pipe back), and 8 batteries in it. I didn't keep track of the number of times that I replaced the front brake pads and rear shoes, or the actual number of oil changes that I did, but I am fairly certain that I changed the oil at least 35 times over the life of the truck. I can't seem to find all of the receipts for tires, but I am sure that I put at least 4 sets of new tires on it over the years.

I had to laugh because on the way to drop it off at the dealer, I had to stop by the bank to pick up the check for the new car. I pulled out of my street onto the main road, and the passenger side door flew open as I made the turn. I reached over, grabbed it, and tried to shut it while driving up the road. After 4 slams, it still wouldn't latch closed. I drove the rest of the way to the bank holding the passenger door shut with my right hand, and driving with the left. When I got to the bank, I saw that the latch mechanism had lost the spring that allows the catch to grab the post on the door jamb. I had an old, dry rotted piece of bungee in the bed, so I opened the extended cab and passenger windows and tied the door shut. After I picked up the check, I started the engine, and the temperature gauge nearly pegged itself. I reached up, patted the top of the dash, and said "Come on buddy, you've been a great truck. Give me 12 more good miles, and you get to have a nice, long rest. Shoot, you might even come back as a nice new E Class in a year or two.". Well, the temp gauge immediately dropped back to normal, and the dang thing drove as good as new all the way to the dealer. When I pulled in and put it in park, the RPMs went up to a little over 2000 and I could hear lots of hissing under the hood. I am 90% sure that it blew a head or intake gasket on the way there. :smt043

I felt kinda slimy for taking a government handout, but after thinking about all of the money that the government has stolen from my paychecks and investments over the years, I got over it. So, thanks to all of you for working so hard and helping me pay for a new car. I didn't really need the help, and I am 110% certain that I am NOT the guy that Obama or the dems were trying to help with this program. The truck was already dead, so they didn't gain any pollution "savings" by getting it off of the road. AND... As promised, I did NOT buy a union made vehicle. Union made products and services are BANNED from my household until the unions stop sleeping with the liberals, stop slandering my views as a conservative, and start backing candidates whose philosophies are not detrimental to the country. I haven't been able to beat the politicians, so I have declared war on their constituents. From now on, I will be doing everything possible to hurt the folks who support liberal candidates by giving them money or belonging to a group that does so. Screw those guys. :smt021 :smt013 :smt021 :smt013 :smt021 :smt013

Michael
 
I think, according to the fine print, that you have to divide the usage of the new vehicle among all of the US residents...legal and illegal. I would appreciate your slotting me for December 31 and I will use my share for New Year's Eve festivities and get it back to you the next morning. Thanks!

PS, if you can have it fueled up and waxed, it would be appreciated.
 
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No problem. You're in for 12/31/09.

Just one problem. I am not sure that you'll be able to get that far in your allocated time slot.

There are 1314000 minutes in the year. If there are 400 million ahem... people here who can drive, then that works out to a whopping 11.8 seconds per driver.

So, thank you in advance for pulling my car from the garage to the street. You'll be driving about 20 hrs round trip from Woodstock for that 12 second ride. I can ask my neighbor to take a 24 second ride to save you the trip if you like... :huh:
 
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Or, you can take the alternative route to rebate. If you old car does not qualify for the program or the car you are buying does not qualify, there's one more trick in the book. Look up the "book value" of your old vehicle. Consult several sources to get the best price. Now donate that car to the local rescue squad. They'll use the car to practice extractions with their "jaws of life", saws, and other implements of vehicular destruction. Take your receipt for your donated vehicle and write off the book value as a charitable donation on your 2009 taxes. High book on my Navi is probably just under 10G, which is good for about a 3G deduction. Your mileage may vary.

Best regards,
Frank
 
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No problem. You're in for 12/31/09.

Just one problem. I am not sure that you'll be able to get that far in your allocated time slot.

There are 1314000 minutes in the year. If there are 400 million ahem... people here who can drive, then that works out to a whopping 11.8 seconds per driver.

So, thank you in advance for pulling my car from the garage to the street. You'll be driving about 20 hrs round trip from Woodstock for that 12 second ride. I can ask my neighbor to take a 24 second ride to save you the trip if you like... :huh:

12 seconds isn't a lot of time (even for me, chimes in the wife). There is always a catch with these government programs, darn it. OK, I'll get back with you after I request a larger TARP allocation.
 
Good for you! At least you'll be able to pay on the car loan!(if you didn't use cash). I have a feeling a lot of folks will be selling their Cash for clunkers new cars in a few months because they can't afford the payments (part of the same crew that lost their houses because of mortgages they couldn't afford).

-VtSeaRay
 
Good for you! At least you'll be able to pay on the car loan!(if you didn't use cash). I have a feeling a lot of folks will be selling their Cash for clunkers new cars in a few months because they can't afford the payments (part of the same crew that lost their houses because of mortgages they couldn't afford).

-VtSeaRay

I paid her off in full. No car payments for me. :smt038

I still need a truck, so I hope you are correct. The only problem is that I doubt many folks were able to purchase a new truck that they can't afford under the CFC program. The new vehicle needs to get 10 more MPG than the trade in to get the $4500 rebate (I think it is 8 MPG for the $3500). Thats why I bought the Sentra vs. an Altima, Camry, or Accord. Maybe someone was able to trade in a late 80s model F450 on a new truck, but I doubt many could. The CARS web site isn't so accurate about the EPA mileage for the older vehicles. It listed my 94 GMC Sonoma at a combined City/Highway 18 MPG. That truck NEVER saw 18 MPG on its best day downhill with a tailwind drafting an 18 wheeler...

I have been watching used trucks at the local lots. There are quite a few nice 05-08 full size pickups sitting out there right now. The prices on the windshields have been slowly dropping over the last couple of months. Since I now have a new daily driver, my requirements for a truck have dropped a little. It will be used for hauling with very little other day to day duties. All I need is a full 6' bed and a nice, strong drivetrain. 4x4 would be nice for the winter, but I can live without it.

Its all good. The liberals are making new poor people every day. I'm sure that someone will need to sell a nice, relatively new truck in order to pay their mortgage pretty soon. I'm just going to sit here like a vulture ready to swoop in and save the day. The unions don't profit from used trucks, do they? :grin:
 
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I still need a truck, so I hope you are correct. The only problem is that I doubt many folks were able to purchase a new truck that they can't afford under the CFC program. The new vehicle needs to get 10 more MPG than the trade in to get the $4500 rebate (I think it is 8 MPG for the $3500).

Its all good. The liberals are making new poor people every day. I'm sure that someone will need to sell a nice, relatively new truck in order to pay their mortgage pretty soon. I'm just going to sit here like a vulture ready to swoop in and save the day. The unions don't profit from used trucks, do they? :grin:

My Navi is rated at 13 combined, but I almost never do that badly. Anyway, according to the rebate calculator on Ford's (the company not owned by the UAW) web site, I can't get a real truck, but I can get a cross-over, like the Ford Flex GTDI. I think that's the twin turbo 365 hp version that's due out in a few more weeks. Not a terrible trade, I guess although I'd rather have a V8.

The unions profit if the trade-in value is high enough to encourage someone to trade in a vehicle for a new unionista vehicle

Best regards,
Frank C
 
My Navi is rated at 13 combined, but I almost never do that badly. Anyway, according to the rebate calculator on Ford's (the company not owned by the UAW) web site, I can't get a real truck, but I can get a cross-over, like the Ford Flex GTDI. I think that's the twin turbo 365 hp version that's due out in a few more weeks. Not a terrible trade, I guess although I'd rather have a V8.

The unions profit if the trade-in value is high enough to encourage someone to trade in a vehicle for a new unionista vehicle

Best regards,
Frank C

At 13 MPG, I'd email the annointed one directly, and tell him I'll scrap it and give him the email addresses of 5 friends and neighbors who have said bad things about him, his momma, or his horse, join acorn, and buy a new GM hybrid for $100Gs. I'd bet he'd go for that...

Ya know... All this talking about cheese has made me thirsty. I wonder if we could get the libs to sneak a "cash for drunkards" program through real quick? We could like trade in a case of Natty Bo for a case of Dalmore 62 Single Highland Malt Scotch :thumbsup:
 
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I'm going to P. O. the anointed one, the greenies, and all the other holy holy ones and drive that thing until the engine blows up. Currently at 315K miles. (That's more than 20,000 gallons, or a bit more than two tanker trucks of fuel and tons and tons of carbon dioxide.) Figure she's good for at least another hundred. Probably more :smt001

I don't look at it as driving to work, but rather making a statement... with the middle finger raised.
 
I like that. Hmmm... Now you've got me wondering what kind of trade in I can get for a 2009 Sentra with 140 miles on it. Maybe I can get Carmax to hook me up with a sweet deal on a used Hummer?

Maybe we should come up with a design for one of those ribbon magnets that folks put on their car to indicate support for something. I've seen pink ones for breast cancer, yellow ones for supporting the troops, maybe a red one with a pink finger and a little gas pump nozzle on it to indicate "screw the libs".
 
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A V10 Excursion makes a bit of a statement..... I don't have to raise my middle finger - the truck seems to do it on it's own!:grin: If I didn't drive it - who would the Pius [sic] owner get PO'd at? :smt043 The looks the other day when I was using one pump to get 38 gallon in the truck and 80 in the boat was priceless. We had time to make and eat sandwiches....
 
God bless you, Travis!

Now that's an
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I like that. Hmmm... Now you've got me wondering what kind of trade in I can get for a 2009 Sentra with 140 miles on it. Maybe I can get Carmax to hook me up with a sweet deal on a used Hummer?

Maybe we should come up with a design for one of those ribbon magnets that folks put on their car to indicate support for something. I've seen pink ones for breast cancer, yellow ones for supporting the troops, maybe a red one with a pink finger and a little gas pump nozzle on it to indicate "screw the libs".

Now you're talking. Libs hate Hummers even more than the Excursion. What about a green ribbon with a black shroud? See: Ecoimperialism: Green Power, Black Death

Best regards,
Frank
 
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Ya know... After all of these years we (and the RNC) have been sitting around letting ourselved get pounded mercilessly by the "unholy gang of 4" (liberal media, liberal education, liberal activist courts, and the DNC), going on offense for a change is kinda fun.

Anyone want to have a "Tea Party raft-up"? We could do them right smack in the middle of all of the major urban centers. BIH, Annapolis, National Harbor, etc.. We'll let our engines and gennys idle all day long. We can even rent a few smoke machines to add to the effect. The media ain't going to cover it anyway, so being on the water wouldn't be much of a disadvantage. We could invite Sarah Palin to come out and hang out on the bow in a bikini. :thumbsup:
 

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