If you know my son Michael, you probably realize he loves our boat and boating more than any of us. So here he is on a bored winter day at school learning to use the CNC machine.
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Cool. Hopefully he stays with it. There are not nearly enough programmers/operators of such equipment for our future.
Just looking at our area's (Chicagoland) recently released salary report -- CNC programmer 25th to 75th percentile: $60k to $80k.So what could a programmer expect to earn? He did program this. He's in HS, still thinking about long term plans.
And I know of accounts with good experienced setup men / programmers making over $100-$120K per year in the Chicago area. Could be a great career...Just looking at our area's (Chicagoland) recently released salary report -- CNC programmer 25th to 75th percentile: $60k to $80k.
Back in the '90's a local machine shop owner called me. A fellow I knew had used me for a reference. The shop owner started asking question, said he was having trouble finding good help. I told him I'd save him some time...the guy you're asking about always gets to work on time and he can read a ruler. That was all it took, he hired the guy.Cool. Hopefully he stays with it. There are not nearly enough programmers/operators of such equipment for our future.
Boatman, just curious--what do you use it for?I have a small 24"x24" desktop CNC. It will cut aluminum but not good. I cut wood signs and etch lexan and glass with it but hardly use it anymore. I worked at a plastics manufacturing company and we had about 5 or 6 CNC's. Right after I started they bought a $300,000 Thermwood and I watched them install it and set it up then I had to connect it to the network so watched the first few times it was used. Talked to a guy there that had a small home one so he talked me into buying one. Wife wasn't happy as she had no idea I bought it until it showed up at the door...lol. Now I mention selling it and she says 'no way'...lol
Just tinkering making wooden signs and stuff. I'll dig up some pics and post a few laterBoatman, just curious--what do you use it for?
I had a customer come in the shop… I literally couldn’t machine any faster…. Machines were running lightening fast ….. he said how is it going?…. Quoting machines you quote cycle time ….. I said I don’t like margins on your parts….. I did him a favor taking the parts from a bad supplier at their prices as a favor…. He looked at me and said you’re problem is your not machining fast enough….. I threw them out two weeks agoMy youngest son how's 33 yrs. old spent 6 month getting a CNC wood shops machines running at production speeds because they were burning up tooling. After the production numbers went up and the tooling cost went down the Owner of came out and slowed all the Machines back down. The owner said they shouldn't be running the fast. P'd off my son that instead of doing that anymore for a living He went back to Kentucky U to finish he Mechanical Engineering Degree.
Really it is cycle time and tool optimization. Tooling cost should only be about 5% and reducing the price of the tools won't get you to your cost objectives. Eliminating tool changes at the best "possible" cycle time means more run time and higher profits... Possible doesn't mean running faster, it means running it at the most efficient MRR rate for the tool getting the longest tool life.I had a customer come in the shop… I literally couldn’t machine any faster…. Machines were running lightening fast ….. he said how is it going?…. Quoting machines you quote cycle time ….. I said I don’t like margins on your parts….. I did him a favor taking the parts from a bad supplier at their prices as a favor…. He looked at me and said you’re problem is your not machining fast enough….. I threw them out two weeks ago
tooling cost and cycle time is all that matters…… you brake a machine because of it you bought the wrong machine
Didn’t I say that ?Really it is cycle time and tool optimization. Tooling cost should only be about 5% and reducing the price of the tools won't get you to your cost objectives. Eliminating tool changes at the best "possible" cycle time means more run time and higher profits... Possible doesn't mean running faster, it means running it at the most efficient MRR rate for the tool getting the longest tool life.
Sorry. I’m sensitive to the “Tooling cost” comment as us Tooling manufacturers are constantly get beat up to “sell cheaper”….Didn’t I say that ?
I would only pick on you if you were sandvikSorry. I’m sensitive to the “Tooling cost” comment as us Tooling manufacturers are constantly get beat up to “sell cheaper”….