charlieft
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OK, You win. ... wait ... no ... you lost hahahahahahahahah
do we have to get so serious?
~peace and love~
do we have to get so serious?
~peace and love~
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Both parties are complete failures.
Both parties failed. But one is worse than the other and neither has done much good in the last two decades or so. For example, the Community Reinvestment Act and other stupid but supposedly "well-intentioned" measures passed during the Clinton administration, and later abetted by Bush fueled the housing bubble that lead to the mortgage crisis. Reference here.
The last three years of his administration were actually controlled by a locked Democratically controlled House and Senate...including some incredibly important decisions which assisted in creating the house of cards we are now paying for.
I now consider Rush a blowhard ultra conservative, "toe the line" moron who has never had a bad thing to say about ANY Republican regardless of the scandal or ineptitude at ANY time.
He only speaks the "truth" according to his vision, and does not accept or tolerate any good by any other politician (especially dems) outside of his own little world of republican values.
and yet he is far more inciteful (and indeed often more journalistic) than most major news organisations.
Joe Legal vs. One Is Illegal
Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of California...
You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "One Is Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.
"Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted....
"One Is Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 an hour cash "under the table".
Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year
Now take 30% away for state federal tax
Joe Legal now has $31,231.00
One Is Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year
One Is Illegal pays no taxes...
One Is Illegal now has $31,200.00
Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage
$1000.00 per month
$12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.00
One Is Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics
at a cost of $0.00 per year
One Is Illegal still has $31,200.00
Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare
Joe Legal pays for food
$1,000.00 per month
$12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00
One Is Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare
One Is Illegal still has $31,200.00
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month
$12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal is now in the hole... minus (-) $4,769.00
One Is Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
One Is Illegal pays rent
$500.00 per month
$6,000.00 per year
One Is Illegal still has $25,200.00
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
One Is Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal's and One Is Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while One Is Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.
One Is Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal's children go home.
Joe Legal and One Is Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and One Is did not pay.
I had a conversation with an 18 year old the other day about the current state of our country. His point of view was that everything was going to be fine now that the dems controlled everything. I started asking him some questions like how hard was he willing to work, and how much of what he earned was he willing to give away to pay for all of the wasteful spending that is going on. His response was "not much". So, I asked him how he planned on stopping the government from taking what they will need to pay for the money that we are spending now. He had no answer other than it will not be "my problem". Well, guess what? It will be his problem. His entire life will be spent working to take care of, and pay for, people he has never met. They will get their share of his future earnings before he or his future family will.
The libs have stolen the future from the next generation. They did it by demonizing the right, and brainwashing the youth of this country through indoctrination in schools and the media. We will be leaving them one hell of a mess to clean up.
The only saving grace in all of this is that younger generations tend to revolt against the older generations. At some point, being liberal will be what their parents and government tell them is "right", and they will do just the opposite in the name of rebellion. That is when we will get our country back.
As for now, all I can do is spread the word. I apologize to the younger crowd for the mess that our generation has left them, and urge them to think for themselves. I try to leave them wondering what things would be like without an oppressive, out of control government. They have been told that conservatives want to take away their rights, and that the left doesn't, but when you go point by point and discuss the rights that they have lost at the hands of the libs, you can tell that they understand but are confused because they were taught otherwise. The only "rights" that conservatives want to take away is the "right" to kill babies, and to do harm to others. We want to take away the excuse that "it was the environment in which they were raised" when dealing with criminal activities in the court system. I also try to give them an honest representation of what conservatism is all about by discussing a few ideas on taxation, landholders' rights, the Constitution, etc.. I find it funny that on a point by point basis, they tend to agree with a lot of conservative principles, and they don't even know it. Hopefully, I can plant a few seeds of rebellion along the way.
I think you should get the number of votes that is equivelent to the cumulative dollars you've paid into the system... That'll keep most 18 year olds from voting... and a lot of 30 year olds... and 40 year olds... etc...
Geez... and here I thought Barney Frank was unique... Are you one of his lovers or one of his advisers?
Wow... quite the intelligent, well reasoned, response.