2023 Springtime Shine thread

The best technology is ceramic coating. It cures and forms a strong layer over gelcoat and paint. It is nanotechnology and lasts for years if maintained properly which amounts to a spray on ceramic boost that’s wipe on wipe off once a year.

Regardless of brand, a high quality marine grade ceramic is the best technology for hydrophobicity, UV / IR protection.

If you are seeking a better protective solution look into PPF. It’s the hottest product entering marine industry.
 
I got a quote from the local detailer who does most of the boats at my new to me Marina. He uses products I've never heard of. Presta and Jescar. He swears by them, anyone have any experience with them?

Presta 131932 Ultra Cutting Crème for Removing P1500 Grit, Finer Sand Scratches and Swirls - 32 Oz. https://a.co/d/aDnjTNr

JESCAR POWER LOCK PLUS POLYMER SEALANT - 32OZ https://a.co/d/eU29oMj
 
mrsrobinson said:
I got a quote from the local detailer who does most of the boats at my new to me Marina. He uses products I've never heard of. Presta and Jescar. He swears by them, anyone have any experience with them?

Presta 131932 Ultra Cutting Crème for Removing P1500 Grit, Finer Sand Scratches and Swirls - 32 Oz. https://a.co/d/aDnjTNr

JESCAR POWER LOCK PLUS POLYMER SEALANT - 32OZ https://a.co/d/eU29oMj
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Presta products are great. Water based with no silicone polymers. The shine you get will be the same you end with with at end of season with proper wax protecting it. Not heard of the other product.
I have used a sealant before on old boat as a step after polish and before wax. It did look good. Not sure any better. The following year I just used a second coat of collinite wax and thought it was as good with no noticeable difference.
 
mrsrobinson said:
I got a quote from the local detailer who does most of the boats at my new to me Marina. He uses products I've never heard of. Presta and Jescar. He swears by them, anyone have any experience with them?
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Jescar is a popular name in the car detailing circles. Their PowerLock is pretty well regarded.

Coatings in general are all marketing speak. Ceramic, Graphene, nano-coatings, etc, are usually twists of the truth to get attention. Most ceramics do NOT create a hard shell of durable ceramic. They merely contain ceramic components that have high hydrophobic properties, as well as create a thin protective layer (but NOT a molecular ceramic, high-hardness shell). The graphene coatings are even more misleading. Jescar PowerLock is a polymer sealant--technically less flashy tech compared to ceramic or graphene, but still does a very good job.

Unfortunately, there are so many flavors of coatings and sealants it's hard to point to on and say, "This is the best, use this."

However, if the formulations are good, they DO offer very good hydrophobic properties, UV protection, and make it look better and easier to keep clean.
 
I stopped by the marina this morning to pick up my access stickers for the truck and car and the golf cart permit sticker. They were launching boat #2 of the morning with 6 to go today. Some early starters. I'm a month and a half yet.
 
SilentJ20 said:
Jescar is a popular name in the car detailing circles. Their PowerLock is pretty well regarded.

Coatings in general are all marketing speak. Ceramic, Graphene, nano-coatings, etc, are usually twists of the truth to get attention. Most ceramics do NOT create a hard shell of durable ceramic. They merely contain ceramic components that have high hydrophobic properties, as well as create a thin protective layer (but NOT a molecular ceramic, high-hardness shell). The graphene coatings are even more misleading. Jescar PowerLock is a polymer sealant--technically less flashy tech compared to ceramic or graphene, but still does a very good job.

Unfortunately, there are so many flavors of coatings and sealants it's hard to point to on and say, "This is the best, use this."

However, if the formulations are good, they DO offer very good hydrophobic properties, UV protection, and make it look better and easier to keep clean.
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Yeah, the guy there is a car detailer as well. I like him, seems to know his stuff and comes with great referrals; I just wonder if this car stuff is ok on the boat.

I am in a covered slip so I also wonder if I even need compounding/waxing/detailing this year. It was done last May. I washed her Saturday and the hull still looks mostly good.

I have been thinking about this: how does one know it's time to compound/wax/detail other than "it's not as shiny as it was before".
 
Pre-compound this year. This is a full year of Starke hybrid sealant (the sun side of the boat) and then been outside all winter under shrink. Not bad, I’ll be doing a single compound pass with fine polish then onto a sealant coat. Topsides need attention this year

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Jus Cruisin said:
I used 303 Graphine spray on my dark blue hull after using Flagship cleaner wax last fall. I've used the graphine on my F150 last summer and it was still shedding water really well when I traded it last month. I'll see how it goes this summer. View attachment 140838 View attachment 140839
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I tried the 303 graphine on the blue 2 years ago. It made no difference still oxidized….. won’t do it again
 
mrsrobinson said:
Yeah, the guy there is a car detailer as well. I like him, seems to know his stuff and comes with great referrals; I just wonder if this car stuff is ok on the boat.
I am in a covered slip so I also wonder if I even need compounding/waxing/detailing this year. It was done last May. I washed her Saturday and the hull still looks mostly good.

I have been thinking about this: how does one know it's time to compound/wax/detail other than "it's not as shiny as it was before".
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Oxidation is the enemy…. When you get it compound, polish, wax….. if you don’t have it wax only
 
Strecker25 said:
Pre-compound this year. This is a full year of Starke hybrid sealant (the sun side of the boat) and then been outside all winter under shrink. Not bad, I’ll be doing a single compound pass with fine polish then onto a sealant coat. Topsides need attention this year

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Looks good, I don't think I'd even bother doing anything with that level of shine.
 
mrsrobinson said:
Looks good, I don't think I'd even bother doing anything with that level of shine.
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well, I’m a sick person.

by the way to the question of when to wax/seal. I do it annually because our season is short but if I was in a warmer climate I would reapply when the surface starts to lose its hydrophobic properties. I typically coat our topsides once during the summer. I’ve also found the 303 speed detailer to do an awesome job for small areas
 
The Dark Side said:
What type of pads does everyone recommend for machine polishing and wax?
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3M here but I’ve used lake country and liked them as well. I have the quick disconnect adapter for the 3m so I buy the double sided pads. They’re pricey but last multiple seasons. I’ve also gone to foam versus wool the last couple seasons and I’m finally convinced it’s a superior product for everything except the deepest cut. I doubted foam for a while but it’s a lot easier to work with imo
 
Well just left storage. The outside is officially done. I even got the new dinghy unpacked and on the swim platform. Fits perfect. It’s not inflated or has the motor on it which is why the cover is loose….. note the anchor behind me it is exactly forehead height….. hit it twice….. then I took dinghy packing and put it over ….I knocked it off once….. so slapping someone in the head to smarten up doesn’t actually work….. with me anyway:)
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