El Capitan
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- Jul 9, 2014
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- Boat Info
- 1970 SRV 180 w 2.5L Mercruiser.
2000 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer
- Engines
- 120HP Mercruiser
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You think that's fucked up...just wait until your power goes out because they shut the windmills down after seeing a eagle in the area. Wait until all the other millions of windmills get put up, we'll be walking knee deep in carcasses and it's gonna be stinky.How the fk can they prevent the dumb chit birds from running into their wind mills. This should be posted in the “this country is f’d up” thread.
Not me. I’ll have my own fossil fuel burning generator thank you.You think that's fucked up...just wait until your power goes out because they shut the windmills down after seeing a eagle in the area. Wait until all the other millions of windmills get put up, we'll be walking knee deep in carcasses and it's gonna be stinky.
'ESI agreed under a plea agreement to spend up to $27 million during its five-year probationary period on measures to prevent future eagle deaths. That includes shutting down turbines at times when eagles are more likely to be present.'
You can't prevent all of them, but you can make it less likely. Stopping the turbine blades when there are migrations is a huge step to preventing big numbers from dying. Sometimes you can stop them during just the 'active' parts of the day, other times it might be for a couple days in a row. Either way it can really cut into the power output from the turbines.How the fk can they prevent the dumb chit birds from running into their wind mills. This should be posted in the “this country is f’d up” thread.
I got a better idea. Stop the scam and don’t build them. You want “clean” energy, go nuclear.You can't prevent all of them, but you can make it less likely. Stopping the turbine blades when there are migrations is a huge step to preventing big numbers from dying. Sometimes you can stop them during just the 'active' parts of the day, other times it might be for a couple days in a row. Either way it can really cut into the power output from the turbines.
I worked with a company for a bit that used cameras to identify the quantity, type and direction of birds and they had several installations around wind farms to try to mitigate the slaughter and it worked pretty good. They were also hired to survey potential sites to see how bad the conditions might be before the wind farm was actually committed to being built.
I'd like to see your source for this data.propellers that require more conventional energy to manufacture than they yield.
Wind farms wouldn't be built if you removed the huge gov't subsidies.
Interesting....just curious to know your raw costs on your house system?
Yea, we went through that. If you are familiar with the systems, they are installing the Iron Ridge XR100. The wind load calcs are in the permit package and are will within the ASCE 7-16 requirements for our area. I'm comfortable.ttmott, just a note to the installation of your proposed solar installation. In the immediate vicinity of our house here on the Gulf side, all the roofs survived the recent hurricane except one. They had a solar package installed on their roof last year. It was a deal by Florida Power and Light. Their roof is still covered and the owners are pissed about the failure. I say this only to make you aware that the engineering on the attachment methods are not the best. With your background you are well positioned to get involved in the anchoring methods on your particular installation and avert a bad outcome should one of those Florida Breezes comes your way.
Thank you for the heads up. I'll be looking that every lag is in a truss - which the engineering requires.The failure was not with the mounting structure included in the kit, it was with the lack of diligence of the crew attaching it to the roof. I must say though, that is only my best guess, since I only watched from across the street, but in talking to the neighbors that still have the blue tarps, they wish they would have had their son there to watch the work. Personally, I don't think the house was a good candidate for that much paneling on that roof. I saw the stucture when that house was reroofed about 8 years ago. A lot of the sheathing was replaced and while it was all open, it was obvious it was only 2x4 rafters and nailed braces. It is not trusses that are used these days and I think there was not enough consideration given to that limiting factor.