Its time. The "President Joe Biden" Thread.

Biden has no clue. This press conference is delusional. We are fucked. But at least he has dealt with the most difficult situations in history. WW2, 9/11 obviously pale in comparison. He is the best advertisement for Republicans.
 
highslice said:
Biden has no clue. This press conference is delusional. We are fucked. But at least he has dealt with the most difficult situations in history. WW2, 9/11 obviously pale in comparison. He is the best advertisement for Republicans.
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Pretty much everything he said was a crock of BS
 
Perfect…… this is a gong show

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JayhawkCurtis said:
Joe Biden says that he got his student loan debt relief plan passed in Congress “by a vote or two.” It was an executive order and was never voted on in Congress.

https://twitter.com/BidensLs/status/1584564338354184193
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Well, I could be wrong but....I can't find any EO where Biden forgave student debt, don't see it on the Federal Register. Biden hasn't done an EO and Congress hasn't voted on it...it's the Dept of Education's authority to do the forgiving of this debt that is being questioned.
 
Woody said:
Well, I could be wrong but....I can't find any EO where Biden forgave student debt, don't see it on the Federal Register. Biden hasn't done an EO and Congress hasn't voted on it...it's the Dept of Education's authority to do the forgiving of this debt that is being questioned.
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Interesting, I thought the lawsuits that were filed were against his EO
 
JayhawkCurtis said:
Interesting, I thought the lawsuits that were filed were against his EO
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This is from the first attempt to block it...

Facts and Background

On September 29, 2022, six states – Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas and South Carolina (Plaintiff States) – brought this action for declaratory and injunctive relief against Defendants President Joseph R. Biden, Jr., Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona, and the United States Department of Education, alleging the Department’s student debt relief plan contravenes the separation of powers and violates the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) because it exceeds the Secretary’s statutory authority and is arbitrary and capricious.

Conclusion

Because Plaintiff States – Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, and South Carolina – have failed to establish Article III standing, the Court lacks jurisdiction to hear this case.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.moed.198213/gov.uscourts.moed.198213.44.0_2.pdf
 
The administration says its authority comes from the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students, or HEROES, Act of 2003, which was passed after the Sept. 11 attacks and authorizes the education secretary to forgive student loans during specific periods such as a war or national emergency. The various plaintiffs have argued that the HEROES Act doesn’t allow for debt relief in the manner proposed.

“But plaintiffs are incorrect: the secretary’s decision, based on thorough economic analysis and targeted in response to the COVID-19 national emergency, fits comfortably within the Secretary’s HEROES Act authority,” administration lawyers wrote in one filing.

No federal judge has yet to weigh in on the merits of the case because the plaintiffs haven’t cleared the standing threshold.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news...partment-undeterred-after-debt-relief-blocked
 
Woody said:
The administration says its authority comes from the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students, or HEROES, Act of 2003, which was passed after the Sept. 11 attacks and authorizes the education secretary to forgive student loans during specific periods such as a war or national emergency. The various plaintiffs have argued that the HEROES Act doesn’t allow for debt relief in the manner proposed.

“But plaintiffs are incorrect: the secretary’s decision, based on thorough economic analysis and targeted in response to the COVID-19 national emergency, fits comfortably within the Secretary’s HEROES Act authority,” administration lawyers wrote in one filing.

No federal judge has yet to weigh in on the merits of the case because the plaintiffs haven’t cleared the standing threshold.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news...partment-undeterred-after-debt-relief-blocked
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Well the 8th district court of appeals granted a stay.

“Amidst Republicans’ efforts to block our debt relief program, we are moving full speed ahead to be ready to deliver relief to borrowers who need the help,” Cardona said in a statement. “As we continue our preparations in compliance with this order, we continue to encourage working- and middle-class Americans to apply for debt relief at studentaid.gov. President Biden and this administration are committed to fighting for the millions of hardworking students and borrowers across the country.”

Hardworking students and borrowers?
 
highslice said:
Well the 8th district court of appeals granted a stay.

“Amidst Republicans’ efforts to block our debt relief program, we are moving full speed ahead to be ready to deliver relief to borrowers who need the help,” Cardona said in a statement. “As we continue our preparations in compliance with this order, we continue to encourage working- and middle-class Americans to apply for debt relief at studentaid.gov. President Biden and this administration are committed to fighting for the millions of hardworking students and borrowers across the country.”

Hardworking students and borrowers?
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screw you, pay me. :)
 
Woody said:
The administration says its authority comes from the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students, or HEROES, Act of 2003, which was passed after the Sept. 11 attacks and authorizes the education secretary to forgive student loans during specific periods such as a war or national emergency. The various plaintiffs have argued that the HEROES Act doesn’t allow for debt relief in the manner proposed.

“But plaintiffs are incorrect: the secretary’s decision, based on thorough economic analysis and targeted in response to the COVID-19 national emergency, fits comfortably within the Secretary’s HEROES Act authority,” administration lawyers wrote in one filing.

No federal judge has yet to weigh in on the merits of the case because the plaintiffs haven’t cleared the standing threshold.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news...partment-undeterred-after-debt-relief-blocked
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screw you, pay me. :)
 
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