Selfie party, err “insurrection” 1 year anniversary!

[Blueone]

That's My democracy, My constitutional process and My Capital Building.

Then when the door is held open by capital police you should be able to walk in…after all it’s yours

in response to your other post….. please point to the perfect President…. Now get him to run, vote for him…. If there isn’t a perfect President…what qualities are you willing to overlook?… Sore loser, tweets too much, acts like a baby??…. Or can you get your head around accomplishments… I am sure you don’t need a list of things Trump got accomplished in 4 years from energy independence to border control and everything in between…the list is quite long…. These are the things that effect you and me….. not the things you list as your reason not to vote for him

 

[firecadet613]

3. I'd be as pissed then as I am now. The storming of the Capital was an attack on our democracy. On our Constitutional process. On our American way of life. That's My democracy, My constitutional process and My Capital Building.

We will have to agree to disagree GFC. Who in the hell holds an insurrection, in the nation with over 300 million civilian held arms - with no arms!?

January 6th was a media show, held by the dems and other corrupt officials. How's that compare to what happened in Portland over the summer?

 

[Blueone]

We will have to agree to disagree GFC. Who in the hell holds an insurrection, in the nation with over 300 million civilian held arms - with no arms!?

January 6th was a media show, held by the dems and other corrupt officials. How's that compare to what happened in Portland over the summer?

I think we are being baited

 

[tc410]

This recurring rhetoric about the cops “holding the door open” to let people in is a pathetic attempt to ignore what really happened….

 

[firecadet613]

This recurring rhetoric about the cops “holding the door open” to let people in is a pathetic attempt to ignore what really happened….

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You'd be a fool to not understand there were Fed actors all around DC that day. Some planted to cause a stir (Ray Epps among others)....and snipers / undercovers ready to take action if need be.

There is PLENTY of video of the Capital PD holding the door open, a Capital PD cop being in the Senate chambers with the Shanman guy, calmly asking him to not damage anything while he is taking pictures....

Being baited is a 100% thing....and the sheep all lap it up....

 

[Blueone]

This recurring rhetoric about the cops “holding the door open” to let people in is a pathetic attempt to ignore what really happened….

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Depends what door and what news outlet youre watching

 

[tc410]

You'd be a fool to not understand there were Fed actors all around DC that day. Some planted to cause a stir (Ray Epps among others)....and snipers / undercovers ready to take action if need be.

 

[boatman37]

I don't agree with anyone storming the capital building. What they did there was wrong. Was it truly Trump supporters? Who knows. My best friends brother was there but did not go inside and had no knowledge that anyone was going to go in. I have not talked to him but from what I heard that he had said was that the ones that stormed the building were not in the 'group' he was with. Actually his words were 'those weren't Trump supporters'. Whether it is true or not I don't know but whoever it was it was wrong.

 

[boatman37]

Dems have been touting the job creations by Biden. A monkey could have been in office and had fantastic job numbers. The job market was in the dumps due to COVID (not Trump or Biden). The fact that everything opened back up is why the job numbers are phenomenal. Has nothing to do with Biden.

 

[firecadet613]

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You must not know about the snipers at the Super Bowl...

 

[Blueone]

Dems have been touting the job creations by Biden. A monkey could have been in office and had fantastic job numbers.

There is a monkey in office

 

[OllieC]

 

[Golfman25]

You'd be a fool to not understand there were Fed actors all around DC that day. Some planted to cause a stir (Ray Epps among others)....and snipers / undercovers ready to take action if need be.

There is PLENTY of video of the Capital PD holding the door open, a Capital PD cop being in the Senate chambers with the Shanman guy, calmly asking him to not damage anything while he is taking pictures....

Being baited is a 100% thing....and the sheep all lap it up....

Or the one's taking selfies with the insurectors.

 

[km1125]

If it was really an "insurrection", then why isn't ONE SINGLE PERSON who participated actually charged with such crime? NOT ONE. In fact, virtually all the people charged were charged with the equivalent of trespassing, as if they stayed after visiting hours were expired. There is a SMALL group of folks who did actually caused some damage and are being rightly charged with such, and should pay the price for those actions.

And someone earlier mentioned Ray Epps. Why hasn't he been charged AT ALL?? He is CLEARLY seen on video PLANNING the day prior for an actual attack on the building, and encouraging folks ON VIDEO that morning to go into the Capitol. He and his group were removing the police barriers and waving folks in. Why not a SINGLE CHARGE for him?? (or any one of his many accomplices??)

 

[Golfman25]

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I just love the ones of the insurectors walking inside the velvet ropes.

 

[Golfman25]

For those of you who think the January 6 storming of the capital was not an insurrection, you need to look up the definition of the word.

in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/
noun

1. a violent uprising against an authority or government.

Unless you have your facts straight you are operating at the same level as the MSM.

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Anyone who is trying to justify the insurrection that took place that day had better take a good look at yourself. Those idiots stormed the Capital Building. They were not invited in by the police as someone on here said. They overran the police, and caused a LOT of damage to the Capital.

And to say it was not violent, one only need watch the video that was taken during the insurrection and posted above. I did and it made my blood boil.

At one point I was a strong Trump supporter. Not any more. He's a sore loser who acts like the spoiled baby he is because he lost the election. If he runs again he will not get my vote.

Now, those of you who strongly support him go ahead and slam me for taking that stand.

With all due respect, you need to ask yourself a few questions. First, define violence. Who in the hell attempts an insurrection against the most powerful super power in the world with a Viking helmet and a flag pole? Where were the guns? Certainly, if it was an insurrection there would be guns ablazing. You remember the Michigan Milita guys who showed up in Lansing protesting their lockdowns? They had their ARs slung over their shoulders. Not one gun in the whole group at the capital, as far as the media has reported (and you know they would if 24/7 365 days if they saw 1 AR). Only shots fired was the Cop who killed Ashely Babbit.

Where police attacked -- yes. Now take a look around any major city. Police are attacked every day. Is that an insurrection -- it is violence against government authority? How about trying to burn down government buildings and such?

But more importantly, you need to ask why where the Police completely unprepared? I mean, you're protecting the most sacred building in our democracy, with a volatile protest -- which recent history suggest could turn ugly -- any you're woefully unprepared that some dude in a Viking Helmet gets in. Something smells to this observer.

Now explain to me the Ray Epps situation. They have the guy on tape instigating and nothing, nada. WTF is that? Makes no sense. Then there is the dude up in the watch tower with a megaphone -- same thing. WTF?

I think you said best here: "Those idiots stormed the Capital Building." That's what you had, a group of idiots, misguided individuals, who got out of hand, as mobs tend to do. It was stupid. And they should pay the consequences. But it was not Pearl Harbor. It was not 9/11. It was not even an "attack on our democracy." And now it's be played by the likes of Cheny, Kinsinger, et. al.

 

[Gofirstclass]

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble but there is no crime of "Insurrection". That term describes an action but it is not a crime. The underlying crimes can include things like assault, battery, malicious mischief, murder, etc. That is why you didn't see any of the hundreds of people arrested charged with insurrection. Quite properly, they were charged with the various crimes they committed.

Similarly, nobody was charged with "violence" because there is no such crime. Again, the underlying crimes can include assault, murder, malicious mischief, etc.
vi·o·lence
/ˈvī(ə)ləns
noun

With all due respect, you need to ask yourself a few questions. First, define violence. Who in the hell attempts an insurrection against the most powerful super power in the world with a Viking helmet and a flag pole? Where were the guns? Certainly, if it was an insurrection there would be guns ablazing. You remember the Michigan Milita guys who showed up in Lansing protesting their lockdowns? They had their ARs slung over their shoulders. Not one gun in the whole group at the capital, as far as the media has reported (and you know they would if 24/7 365 days if they saw 1 AR). Only shots fired was the Cop who killed Ashely Babbit.

Where police attacked -- yes. Now take a look around any major city. Police are attacked every day. Is that an insurrection -- it is violence against government authority? How about trying to burn down government buildings and such?

But more importantly, you need to ask why where the Police completely unprepared? I mean, you're protecting the most sacred building in our democracy, with a volatile protest -- which recent history suggest could turn ugly -- any you're woefully unprepared that some dude in a Viking Helmet gets in. Something smells to this observer.

Now explain to me the Ray Epps situation. They have the guy on tape instigating and nothing, nada. WTF is that? Makes no sense. Then there is the dude up in the watch tower with a megaphone -- same thing. WTF?

I think you said best here: "Those idiots stormed the Capital Building." That's what you had, a group of idiots, misguided individuals, who got out of hand, as mobs tend to do. It was stupid. And they should pay the consequences. But it was not Pearl Harbor. It was not 9/11. It was not even an "attack on our democracy." And now it's be played by the likes of Cheny, Kinsinger, et. al.

behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

So, before you start thinking I am baiting you, I suggest you check your facts by checking your definitions. I am not one to bait. After a lengthy career in law enforcement I do tend to know of what I speak.

 

[Gofirstclass]

"With all due you need to ask yourself a few questions. First, define violence. I already did that. Who in the hell attempts an insurrection against the most powerful super power in the world with a Viking helmet and a flag pole? Where were the guns? Certainly, if it was an insurrection there would be guns ablazing. Please go back and read the definition of Insurrection. That will answer your questions. You remember the Michigan Milita guys who showed up in Lansing protesting their lockdowns? They had their ARs slung over their shoulders. Not one gun in the whole group at the capital, as far as the media has reported (and you know they would if 24/7 365 days if they saw 1 AR). Only shots fired was the Cop who killed Ashely Babbit. And your point is?

Where police attacked -- yes. Now take a look around any major city. Police are attacked every day. Is that an insurrection -- it is violence against government authority? How about trying to burn down government buildings and such? There is no crime of insurrection. Murder, arson, burglary, assault, trespass yes but no crime of insurrection.

But more importantly, you need to ask why where the Police completely unprepared? I mean, you're protecting the most sacred building in our democracy, with a volatile protest -- which recent history suggest could turn ugly -- any you're woefully unprepared that some dude in a Viking Helmet gets in. Something smells to this observer. Those are questions you'd have to direct to the FBI and other gov't agencies. The cops on the barricades would love to have had additional manpower. Did those cops "let" the rioters in? Hell no, but when you and a handful of other cops are trying to stop hundreds of angry people what would you expect them to do?

Now explain to me the Ray Epps situation. They have the guy on tape instigating and nothing, nada. WTF is that? Makes no sense. Then there is the dude up in the watch tower with a megaphone -- same thing. WTF?

I think you said best here: "Those idiots stormed the Capital Building." That's what you had, a group of idiots, misguided individuals, who got out of hand, as mobs tend to do. It was stupid. And they should pay the consequences. But it was not Pearl Harbor. It was not 9/11. It was not even an "attack on our democracy." And now it's be played by the likes of Cheny, Kinsinger, et. al. You and I agree on these points.

Next?

 

[Golfman25]

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble but there is no crime of "Insurrection". That term describes an action but it is not a crime. The underlying crimes can include things like assault, battery, malicious mischief, murder, etc. That is why you didn't see any of the hundreds of people arrested charged with insurrection. Quite properly, they were charged with the various crimes they committed.

Similarly, nobody was charged with "violence" because there is no such crime. Again, the underlying crimes can include assault, murder, malicious mischief, etc.
vi·o·lence
/ˈvī(ə)ləns
noun



behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

So, before you start thinking I am baiting you, I suggest you check your facts by checking your definitions. I am not one to bait. After a lengthy career in law enforcement I do tend to know of what I speak.

So let’s start with this:
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

 

[Golfman25]

"With all due you need to ask yourself a few questions. First, define violence. I already did that. Who in the hell attempts an insurrection against the most powerful super power in the world with a Viking helmet and a flag pole? Where were the guns? Certainly, if it was an insurrection there would be guns ablazing. Please go back and read the definition of Insurrection. That will answer your questions. You remember the Michigan Milita guys who showed up in Lansing protesting their lockdowns? They had their ARs slung over their shoulders. Not one gun in the whole group at the capital, as far as the media has reported (and you know they would if 24/7 365 days if they saw 1 AR). Only shots fired was the Cop who killed Ashely Babbit. And your point is?

Where police attacked -- yes. Now take a look around any major city. Police are attacked every day. Is that an insurrection -- it is violence against government authority? How about trying to burn down government buildings and such? There is no crime of insurrection. Murder, arson, burglary, assault, trespass yes but no crime of insurrection.

But more importantly, you need to ask why where the Police completely unprepared? I mean, you're protecting the most sacred building in our democracy, with a volatile protest -- which recent history suggest could turn ugly -- any you're woefully unprepared that some dude in a Viking Helmet gets in. Something smells to this observer. Those are questions you'd have to direct to the FBI and other gov't agencies. The cops on the barricades would love to have had additional manpower. Did those cops "let" the rioters in? Hell no, but when you and a handful of other cops are trying to stop hundreds of angry people what would you expect them to do?

Now explain to me the Ray Epps situation. They have the guy on tape instigating and nothing, nada. WTF is that? Makes no sense. Then there is the dude up in the watch tower with a megaphone -- same thing. WTF?

I think you said best here: "Those idiots stormed the Capital Building." That's what you had, a group of idiots, misguided individuals, who got out of hand, as mobs tend to do. It was stupid. And they should pay the consequences. But it was not Pearl Harbor. It was not 9/11. It was not even an "attack on our democracy." And now it's be played by the likes of Cheny, Kinsinger, et. al. You and I agree on these points.

Next?

Interesting that you skipped right over Ray Epps.