Winterize Antifreeze

Probably why it's sold out in the entire state, I can't find anymore at Home Depot

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Are these inventory numbers wrong? I was going to get some this weekend.
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As to e or p glycol antifreeze, I've used ethylene glycol in my water system as well as my engine's raw water side for 12 years and never had a problem. The choice is yours.
 
wayne0 said:
As to e or p glycol antifreeze, I've used ethylene glycol in my water system as well as my engine's raw water side for 12 years and never had a problem. The choice is yours.
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Same for my previous gas engines, I never knew there was a difference until recently. And thinking on it more, boats in this area are winterized for 2-3 months, at least mine were, so its not like it sat in the engine raw water side for an extended period of time.
 
I can't understand what the issue is. Als ya need ta do is READ the label. West Marine usually has 2 pallets right next to each other. Both say Marine and RV antifreeze. One is more expensive than the other. They both say water systems, etc, etc. The one that says "ENGINES" on the label is what you put in the "engine". You can either one in the toilet, and you need to freeze protect it, but the plastic pooper lines don't need to have corrosion inhibitor.
 
GypsmJim said:
I can't understand what the issue is. Als ya need ta do is READ the label. West Marine usually has 2 pallets right next to each other. Both say Marine and RV antifreeze. One is more expensive than the other. They both say water systems, etc, etc. The one that says "ENGINES" on the label is what you put in the "engine". You can either one in the toilet, and you need to freeze protect it, but the plastic pooper lines don't need to have corrosion inhibitor.
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I think what some of us are trying to say is:
  1. West Marine is not the only supplier of either type
  2. If you don't think you need the "ENGINE" inhibitors, and the other type has always worked for you, stick with it
In my case it's ~2 months sitting in the winter in the water. How is that much different then her sitting for almost 3 months this summer while I was fixing the overheating issue? And that was raw river water.
 
mrsrobinson said:
I think what some of us are trying to say is:
  1. West Marine is not the only supplier of either type
  2. If you don't think you need the "ENGINE" inhibitors, and the other type has always worked for you, stick with it
In my case it's ~2 months sitting in the winter in the water. How is that much different then her sitting for almost 3 months this summer while I was fixing the overheating issue? And that was raw river water.
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No matter what subject you talk about, someone will say that they did it differently and didn't have a problem.

The issue here is the alcohol in the engine as opposed to putting alcohol in your fresh water sink.

2 months or 3 months with alcohol? Is that short enough? Will 4 months be too long? I dunno.

If ya got a $300 fishin' boat maybe it doesn't matter. If ya paid tens of thousands for a big boat, what does the $3 a gallon more really matter?

My old buddy used to say: "I didn't buy a boat to save money". Another old friend said: "I didn't know, I didn't think!" every time he screwed something up.

"Are ya feelin' lucky, well are ya?"

(OMG what a fantastic thread. I never got to use all my favorite quotes in one place.....lol)
 
"No matter what subject you talk about, someone will say that they did it differently and didn't have a problem."

Like @GypsmJim :)

OP was/is looking for advise on a public website/forum, and that is what he is getting. And like all public forums folks like to jump in and help. Some think they are the SME though, when they are not. I know who those folks are and take their comments with a grain of salt. I do my own research and reach my own decision based on what they share.

This for me this is not about saving money, unless I am comparing apples to apples, then, why not? I have to buy 16 gallons for the engines. If I can save $2-$3 a gallon, all else equal, that's lunch, maybe dinner. If the stuff in the bottle is the same, and only the label is different, well, that's an easy decision for me. For the ones who have used the same (not approved by others on this post) stuff for many years, why change now?
 
Its not the same and the label IS different. The SDS tells all. Regardless who sells it, the same manufacturer probably makes it, and then private labels the brand.

We all do whatever makes us happy. No reason to change.
 
This thread is getting a little confusing. There are generally three antifreezes that are discussed....

Ethylene Glycol - used to be green colored but now can be any color. This was typically used in cars and is poisonous. Should not be used in potable water systems. If used in marine engine systems it should not be discharged into the water.

Propylene Glycol - could be pink, blue or green... it's just dyed a convenient color (leave it out in the sun or a bit and the color will bleach out, but it will still test good to the freeze temperature). This is generally non-toxic and can be used in potable or marine engine systems.

Ethanol-based Antifreeze. usually pink and rated at -50 and sometimes called "RV Antifreeze". Non-toxic and generally not recommended or engine systems due to the ethanol, which can be bad for rubber seals, gaskets and metal surfaces.
 
km1125 said:
This thread is getting a little confusing. There are generally three antifreezes that are discussed....

Ethylene Glycol - used to be green colored but now can be any color. This was typically used in cars and is poisonous. Should not be used in potable water systems. If used in marine engine systems it should not be discharged into the water.

Propylene Glycol - could be pink, blue or green... it's just dyed a convenient color (leave it out in the sun or a bit and the color will bleach out, but it will still test good to the freeze temperature). This is generally non-toxic and can be used in potable or marine engine systems.

Ethanol-based Antifreeze. usually pink and rated at -50 and sometimes called "RV Antifreeze". Non-toxic and generally not recommended or engine systems due to the ethanol, which can be bad for rubber seals, gaskets and metal surfaces.
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Your first sentence is what I said before.

The rest of your post is spot on.

Now I'm sure that someone will disagree with parts of it.....LOL.

If everyone simply READS what you just said, there will be no need for further questions.

SO, let's switch to an oil thread. Ya know that that crappy stuff that WalMart sells is bad for your engine....
 
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