The "virus" What are your thoughts

@El Capitan - Why do you continue acting this way? Aren't you like, 60 years old? Calling people names? Really? Did you bother reviewing my link? What company do you work for that's engaged in this?

When you say "we will begin testing", you mean the CDC is sending testing kits out to the states so they can get faster results. Makes a lot more sense than having to ship to Atlanta and wait for results. Who is the CDC partner?

@firecadet613 - He didn't bother to review my link. If he had, he would see that those claims he's linked to have been proven false.

Here is another article regarding the issue.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/13...oesn-t-show-extent-of-corpse-burning-in-wuhan
 
You have the freedom to believe what you choose. You may act on your opinions, ignorant as they may be. You may limit your paradigm of information to local news and select articles.
You can question all you wish. It’s your life.

I will give you these final facts then you Einstein’s are on your own. I’ve already received too many private messages.

Corona virus is not new. Most of us have already been in contact w a type of corona.

The reason this was has set off alarms inside our industry, is that this mutation is a cousin of SARS but with one huge difference. SARS was not passed on by human contact. This corona is. In fact it is estimated to be 1.5-2 times more readily spread than pandemic flu. This is different. I’ve posted enough information for you to make good choices. Some of you need links. Believe what you want. I am in this and am so on a daily basis. I am prohibited, and not that you in particular would receive any more guidance than what I’ve posted, from saying more.

You have the information. Some will figure it out others will continue to scratchet their head w one hand and w the other scratch you know where while babbling.

It is the nature of some people.

As you banter among yourselves I remind you of the HIV virus, Ebola, and now this corona with the propagation capabilities of pandemic flu.

Over and out.
 
El Capitan said:
You have the freedom to believe what you choose. You may act on your opinions, ignorant as they may be. You may limit your paradigm of information to local news and select articles.
You can question all you wish. It’s your life.

I will give you these final facts then you Einstein’s are on your own. I’ve already received too many private messages.

Corona virus is not new. Most of us have already been in contact w a type of corona.

The reason this was has set off alarms inside our industry, is that this mutation is a cousin of SARS but with one huge difference. SARS was not passed on by human contact. This corona is. In fact it is estimated to be 1.5-2 times more readily spread than pandemic flu. This is different. I’ve posted enough information for you to make good choices. Some of you need links. Believe what you want. I am in this and am so on a daily basis. I am prohibited, and not that you in particular would receive any more guidance than what I’ve posted, from saying more.

You have the information. Some will figure it out others will continue to scratchet their head w one hand and w the other scratch you know where while babbling.

It is the nature of some people.

As you banter among yourselves I remind you of the HIV virus, Ebola, and now this corona with the propagation capabilities of pandemic flu.

Over and out.
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Since you reminded us, please explain the similarities between HIV and Corona.
 
Boat Guy said:
@joeyleggz - Look, I think the social stigma of people feeling "paranoid" can cause people not to do what they should do...A little paranoia never hurt anyone. So take some precautions.

While it might be difficult to get the personal protection supplies, etc., you might want to stock up on a bit of non perishable food that can hold you over for a little while. Then in the event of an issue, you can limit your environment.
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Time to start building up my preps again like after the 2012 scare LOL.. But more importantly I have to work on my emergency evacuation route Living on this island there are only four or five ways to get off this island via car walk or bike and getting through the boroughs would be quite a bottleneck . I’m thinking my boat it’s going to be the best way to get off this place in case of a major emergency Maybe we should start a thread about using our boats for evacuation purposes in the coastal communities Like where I live which is very unique
 
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There doesnt seem to be much domestic concern about this anymore. This week I flew through Miami, Philidelphia, West Palm Beach, and OHare. Didnt see a single person wearing a mask in any of those airports (except one employee taking out garbage). Maybe it's the guidance and maybe people are just indifferent, but people's behaviors are definitely different than 2 weeks ago.
 
yobub said:
There doesnt seem to be much domestic concern about this anymore.
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I went to see an Orthopedic surgeon yesterday. They are concerned, they asked if I've been to China recently.
That's not even a regular Dr's office where all the cougher's and hacker's are.
 
So, China is now deploying mini disinfecting tanks and destroying money. It's just an ordinary flu. Nothing to see here folks.
 
yobub said:
I didnt say that I believe the reports out of China. My point in my comment (that I didnt make clearly) is that we are all better off if we stick with reputable news sources. That particular source, which I hadn't heard of before, does not seem to be credible.
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Unfortunately, considering the last three years, I am unable to consider any news source credible. So many people with so many agendas. That means I have no way of really knowing what is happening on the other side of the world.
 
I just flew from Chicago to Frankfurt, Germany. Only saw 1 person with a mask and it was in the parking garage at the Frankfurt Airport.
 
@Steve S - Thanks for the info... I'm not saying masks are appropriate at this stage. But, after discussing the issue of this virus with many people, I'm of the opinion the general public will only take it seriously after their town is on lock-down. I'm not saying that will happen here in the US, but it might. Though, just look at the the world response.
 
I will be in Europe for the next week, participating in a large conference and will look closely at the crowd and in the airports on my return.
 
For those of you interested in reading more, here is an article from The Atlantic published today. The article is primarily oriented around discussion about the likelihood of creating a vaccine, but the background is good and well sourced. Also, if you have the patience to follow the links in the article to some of the underlying sourcing, it will give you good reference from objective, credible sources.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...ahoo&utm_campaign=yahoo-non-hosted&yptr=yahoo

This article does a nice job of putting the COVID-19 virus into context with some of the other cold viruses, and talk about how other related viruses (SARS) had a relatively high fatality rate, but with this virus and the lower fatality rate (less than 2%) it spreads more, even with non-symptomatic people. So, you are more likely to have this and not know it, but less likely to die, as compared to previous comparable viruses. They talk about how this may develop to be a widespread seasonal infection like other cold viruses and like the flu.

Also @DWABoat here's a site https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ that will help you evaluate the credibility and bias of news sources. If you check out some of the sources you are familiar with as a baseline, it will give you a perspective on sources that you aren't familiar with. Yes it takes some time to check out the credibility of news sources, but such is life.
 
unless they find and isolate patient "zero" I suspect were looking at another few thousand fatalities.
Borders must be SEALED immediately to insure survival. planes, trains, boats, everything
 
yobub said:
For those of you interested in reading more, here is an article from The Atlantic published today. The article is primarily oriented around discussion about the likelihood of creating a vaccine, but the background is good and well sourced. Also, if you have the patience to follow the links in the article to some of the underlying sourcing, it will give you good reference from objective, credible sources.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...ahoo&utm_campaign=yahoo-non-hosted&yptr=yahoo

This article does a nice job of putting the COVID-19 virus into context with some of the other cold viruses, and talk about how other related viruses (SARS) had a relatively high fatality rate, but with this virus and the lower fatality rate (less than 2%) it spreads more, even with non-symptomatic people. So, you are more likely to have this and not know it, but less likely to die, as compared to previous comparable viruses. They talk about how this may develop to be a widespread seasonal infection like other cold viruses and like the flu.

Also @DWABoat here's a site https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ that will help you evaluate the credibility and bias of news sources. If you check out some of the sources you are familiar with as a baseline, it will give you a perspective on sources that you aren't familiar with. Yes it takes some time to check out the credibility of news sources, but such is life.
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Thanks, yobub. I will look at the site, suspiciously, of course.

oh, BTW, I live in south Louisiana. Some genius decided to bring some covid virus to a primate research center about an hour from my house (Covington) to try and get a vaccine. Sometimes, I hope what I hear is fake news.
 
@yobub - Not a bad article, and what he writes is plausible.

@Bt Doctur - What do you mean by patient "zero"? Here in the US? There likely won't be a single person and I'm not sure it would matter.

The more people limit public places and potential exposures now, the more likely we are to slow this down and hopefully get a reprieve during the summer months. At this point, it's helpful to try not being a carrier at just about all costs so as to not overwhelm the healthcare system.

@DWABoat - Source?
 
Pt zero would be the first one who contacted the virus from the animal source. As in the Avian flu, they discovered who the first person (little boy I believe) who was the first to catch the disease from birds. I suppose they can study his immune system or the virus in the 1st patient to see how it mutated and maybe get a better chance of figuring out how to treat or stop it. I may be completely mistaken, it's been years since I studies virology and epidemiology. My life is more focused on bacteria.
 
@spikedaddy99 - I don't know if your clarification was directed at me, but I understand what Pt zero means... I'm simply trying to clarify if @Bt Doctur meant this person or the first in the US. It's interesting you think that it might help to study this person and it makes sense. From what I've read, and I'm not convinced it's accurate, China claims to have discovered pt zero. I further read, and have not confirmed that the person was asymptomatic for over 30 days.

But, I have to ask you, with your studies, do you find it plausible that the virus came from an animal and jumped from animal to human transmission to human to human transmission immediately? Personally, with my training, I'm leaning way over to the side that this came out of the Bio Testing lab in Wuhan. It reminds me of when Iran claimed they didn't shoot down the plane despite overwhelming evidence.
 
Boat Guy said:
@yobub - Not a bad article, and what he writes is plausible.

@Bt Doctur - What do you mean by patient "zero"? Here in the US? There likely won't be a single person and I'm not sure it would matter.

The more people limit public places and potential exposures now, the more likely we are to slow this down and hopefully get a reprieve during the summer months. At this point, it's helpful to try not being a carrier at just about all costs so as to not overwhelm the healthcare system.

@DWABoat - Source?
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My source was the local radio station news.
Also: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.no...3dcbc20c-536b-11ea-ad68-0f430ce8649a.amp.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ka...research-project-hoping-for-vaccine?_amp=true
 
Hey @DWABoat Thanks for the links...Personally, my concern level would be at a 1 on a scale of 20 regarding this facility handling the virus. Truth is, they probably already handle other biohazards now. I don't know if my words put your mind at ease, but frankly, I'd be more concerned about the undetected cases...Limit your exposure to others as much as possible.
 
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