36 Sedan Bridge

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brian thomas

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Mar 12, 2007
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Iowa
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240 SD
Engines
6.2 Bravo III
My local dealer has a new 36 Sedan Bridge in stock but have not unwraped it yet. Have any of you seen this boat in person? Any idea what they are actually selling them for?
 
Brian,

Where are you located? I have been on one and have taken one on a sea trial. My wife and I like the boat a lot and have been considering ordering one (Sea Ray has a big rebate out now on the boat). The boat has more than enough horsepower, and handles great with the power steering, the bow and stern thrusters are a must, we like the hard-top also. The boat does have it's weaknesses (I think the bridge could be laid out better), but all in all, you get a sedan with two staterooms, a shower that you don't have to wipe down with a towel after you are done. and a very nice salon, and a good looking boat.

Flettis
 
Well I just strayed from Searay last year and bought a Silverton 36 Convertible. It has 8.1 Crusaders, two tvs, generator, two airs, fridge in the cockpit and just about every normal option available. It is really a nice boat and I got it for $230k. Shortly after I bought it the Searay dealer here in eastern Iowa said he had one being built. I was not able to get a price from him but I looked on the Searay site and priced one out with the same options I have and it went $374k. I am just guessing the standard Searay discount of 25-30% applies but that still makes it around $265k plus. The only thing I don't like about the Searay is the bridge is quite a bit smaller since the sides taper in significantly where the Silverton is more verticle.

I do miss having a Searay and will most likely be back one day.

The pictures likely don't do it justice and I am anxious to tour one to see what I might like next. :grin:
 
kathyrau posted on this topic a couple weeks ago and got some good feedback--a search of "36" will probably pull that thread pretty quickly.

regards
Skip
 
brian
you got yourself into a beautiful boat for almost $100K less. that is a good move. i'm as big a fan of SR as anyone, but those asking prices are insane. of course we all know "ask" and "get" are two different things. dealers make you think that the SR 36s are selling like hotcakes, but i have never seen one on the water. hype? :huh:

for curiosity's sake, what would your boat have run with the yanmars?
 
I think Sea Ray and most dealers would admit that they were too agressive in their pricing and expected profit margins on the boat. There are quite a few of them sitting unsold in the national Marine Max inventory (checked their website). They have an extra 15k in rebate that is public, and other incentive money, as well as seeming willing to work slimmer deals. I am in the process of working numbers with a guy now... Will let you know how it goes.
 
Rondds,

I thought about the Yanmar diesels but with the gen. change the price was around $60k. That was just too big of a pill to swallow. I know you get part of it back at resale but the fuel savings of 20% just does not mean that much to me. The couple we boat with have Cummins diesels and the maintenance seems quite expensive and time consuming. We help each other at oil change time and wow do those diesels use a lot of oil! Something like 6 gallons per engine!
 
hi brian
with a boat your size and weight, the necessity of diesels is highly debatable. i'd go gas also. :thumbsup:
 
I agree. Historically we have used out boat over 100 hours, and in looking at the 36 Sedan and the burn numbers vs cost from Sea Ray, it is just not worth it. I would rather pay more in fuel over the April through November months rather than pay more in monthly payment on the $60,000 for diesel. Just my opinion though.

We took the 36 Sedan out with the gas engines and it was quick. diesel buys a couple of extra knots at WOT with same cruise speed fuel consumption was 5-10 gph less on burn at cruise (if my memory is right)...
 
Flettis- Responding to your post on my "I think I'm In Love" thread... I did not see a black 36 at Clark's. I'm pretty sure I would've noticed that! But... they do have a TON of boats down there... what's going on with your deal?
 
Here to in NY they are not moving product and are not willing to budge on there margin's. Boats still in stock from last year have not been discounted but yet our trades are worth-less...

So ill never figure it out...Id think they'd want to move product to get the volume discount and make alittle less.. instead they want to clubber everyone...

I know 3 people that walked away as the pricing could not be worked out ... onewent to Formula....other two kept there current boats .

Rob
 
Diesels do take more oil than a big block at annual services, no question. My 6CTA 8.3M3 450s take 22 qts per engine, including filter. The filter looks like a 105MM howitzer casing and holds nearly 4 quarts. The Onan (Kubota) 3 Cyinder diesel generator takes 5 quarts with filter. I paid something like 93 bucks for all fluids for my annual services, including 5 quarts each into the ZF 280 Series IV trannies. Each engine "used" about half a quart of oil in 147 operating hours.

Diesels are not the best answer for every application, but for bigger boats, the low RPM torque of diesels is essential. I was never really comfortable at the helm of my 320, because to maintain 22-23 knots fully loaded against wind and current I was turning those 5.7 MAG Horizons at 3900-4000 RPMs. The Cummins in the 420 produce 24 knots at 2100 RPMs, and are quiet and smooth, and I can do 90% of the work on them myself because there is room to work in the engine spaces.....and I can resell this big diesel girl fairly quickly at some point if I price her competitively and maintain her properly. In my area many big gas boats are languishing on the market now. My local SR dealer has two 370DAs, two 390DAs, two 360DAs, two 400DBs, a 40EC, 380 AC, and a couple other big gas boats from other manufacturers that have been in used stock/brokerage for over a year. Diesel last year averaged $2.40/gal at my marina, or a dollar less/gallon than 93 octane. And I run 24 knots at 24 GPH.

We have beaten this dead horse into equine jerky before, but for my money a clean used diesel boat, 1-3 years old, that can be had for 60-70% of the new purchase cost makes a lot of sense. The new buyer eats the depreciation, and with due diligence the 2d owner gets a great boat at reasonable cost, with easily maintained mains that will go a long time with proper maintenance.

Just my .02, from a guy who has owned both gas and diesel dancers.

regards
Skip
 
Of course you can't do that here

Skip,

Just like someone above set, it all works well in principle other than you can't buy a used Sea Ray on the Potamac for that magical 20 - 30% discount. Heck, those same boats that you are talking about are priced almost identical to the price of the same boat they were selling for new at the D.C. boat show. That's why none of those used boats are moving.

If you don't have the time and inclination to take on the maintenance responsibilities like you have done, then you're pretty much stuck. If you do have the time, then of course you can follow your path, go elsewhere and get a hell of deal on a lightly used Sea Ray to bring home to the Potomac and enjoy.

The local market pisses me off, but it it what it is and the dealer certainly knows it. It won't change until Marine Max encroaches further or another manufacturer has a Class A dealer start raking in Sea Ray owners. I'm not holding out any hope for a change in the near future.

Greg
 
Hi Greg,
Congratulations first of all on the new one. Sweet!

No arguement with anything you posted. Looking afield for the boat that became Truly Blessed II cost me some internet time in the evenings and a solid 5 days of vacation time as I was transitioning out of the Army to get the boat the way I wanted it...plus a couple Saturdays driving across the Bridge to Bay Bridge Marina/North Atlantic Marine Group where I bought her. Of course,
PWM service is out for me..but I now have a year of diesel boat maintenance, including winterization and re-commissioning, under my belt and it is really simple, even for a non motorhead like me. Had this deal not worked out, there was a second 03 420DA with Cummins Power up in New Joysey, and I was prepared to go that far north or as far south as Wrightsville Beach, NC to "git 'er done"

This is the only way I will own a boat like this. My MBA wife simply could not get/will not get/ever not ever get her head around a new, bigger boat, gas or diesel, from PWM...and I was/am in no hurry to have to name my boat "bachelor pad" because sure enough, push the bigger boat option too hard, and it would be me and the dogs living aboard.

So it goes. See you on the river! We are heading up for the Cherry Blossom cruise fist weekend in April. It was absolutely spectacular last year...then on to Port Kinsale in April, Coles Point for a week and half in June, Inner Harbor in July, and I hope Cambridge in August...to quote Springsteen, Baby, we were born to Run!


regards
Skip
 
I agree with all. PW Marina is just way too crazy on their expected margins.

But, I do see some dealers willing to work on getting pricing down to move boats within a class. I think Sea Ray was originally planning on making big bucks per unit for this 36 sedan and now in this market they are realizing that maybe they were pricing themselves out of the market based on Carver, Silverton, and Meridian prices for equivalent boats. We will see what they are willing to do, I am waiting on a phone call when the rigging is done on one in Shady Side, MD....

Also I was on the Potomac when I brought a new Sea Ray from out of state down on a tractor trailer...The boat was in the river for three days before an irate owner from PW called my dealer and Sea Ray and somehow myself. The dealer I bought from was very flexible on getting warranty work done, some of which I handled, and everything worked out in the end.
 
Is the 36 in Shady Side the same one they had at the boat show? It still has not sold? I was thinking about that one but for the time being have decided to hang on to the 310, unless of couse something really knocks my socks off deal wise.
 
No, they sold the 36 that was at the show - at the show.

They are supposed to get two 36s in with hard tops (one black hull - the one I want to see) and one white hull. Rumor has it that there will be a bigger rebate come mid-April...I love the boat, and have most likely made up my mind if I can get the deal where I want it - once the April/May rebate hits...we shall see?
 
Thanks.
That boat would look great in black but my interest would still be in the white hull.
I am curious as to the rebates as this boat also seemed to me to be priced to high.
 
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