410 Sundancer/Express Cruiser and 400 Sundancer/Express Cruiser **Official Thread**

I keep a few of those little fuel filters that are in the pill bottle looking filter housing on board. That little filter clogs up very easily if you're trying to get your fuel tanks clean. I finally have my tanks where the filters are red when I check the racors thanks to Franks fuel treatment regiment. I run my gen a lot, I can tell when that filter starts to get a little clogged up as I will get some soot around the gen exhaust that makes a mess of my waterline.

Not sure if your gen is the same as mine, but I suspect it is. When changing that impeller, I found it easier to just remove the entire housing vs trying to work in that small area. I also keep some extra screws for the impeller cover and a gasket that goes between the pump and the housing on the gen side.

you think it was time? Yuck. I had some nasty fuel last year that Franks treatment cleared up so they shouldn’t get black again

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Took this today, been dying to follow this boat with the drone. The iPhone app downscans to 720p so I’ll make a higher res one later but still cool…


From your wake, it looks like your left prop is only spinning 2840!

Great video and beautiful boat if I must say so myself!! Water looks great too.
 
From your wake, it looks like your left prop is only spinning 2840!

Great video and beautiful boat if I must say so myself!! Water looks great too.

haha, I think you’re right. Time to get the props checked again…

thanks. These Great Lakes can really be something on the good days
 
Just discovered tonight that the headliner on the starboard side is sagging just a touch. Only found it because the little porthole in the ceiling that slides open (wood sliding pocket door in ceiling) has about 1/4” exposed of the deck material

if I push up I can feel what seems like one of those Christmas tree fasteners trying to grab, my guess is it just pulled out.

anyone taken the 410 headliner down? It has 3 pieces, I’m guessing a plastic putty knife will help separate the center section and I can get in there. I’ll add it to my winter list…

I’ll grab a pic tomorrow to better show it
 
The depression is about to start setting in. I just ordered all of my oil change supplies for Fall 2021....ughhh...
 
The depression is about to start setting in. I just ordered all of my oil change supplies for Fall 2021....ughhh...

thats for sure. Wife is a teacher, back to school this week. 55* overnight and big winds on the lake.

I’m scheduled for the second week of October but weather depending will pull forward a week. Oil changes to be done in 2 weeks or so - I’m hoping to still run the boat 10-15 hours before haul
 
Just discovered tonight that the headliner on the starboard side is sagging just a touch. Only found it because the little porthole in the ceiling that slides open (wood sliding pocket door in ceiling) has about 1/4” exposed of the deck material

if I push up I can feel what seems like one of those Christmas tree fasteners trying to grab, my guess is it just pulled out.

anyone taken the 410 headliner down? It has 3 pieces, I’m guessing a plastic putty knife will help separate the center section and I can get in there. I’ll add it to my winter list…

I’ll grab a pic tomorrow to better show it
Look at post 3794. I’m not sure if this is similar to what you are talking about. Hope it helps
 
This last weekend I ran the boat from Holland down to Saugatuck in some fairly rough weather and noticed something new.

On the way there and back the boat felt like it had a little more high frequency vibration than usual, I chalked it up to the conditions. However, I noticed that my port transmission had a little bit of fluid spray around it and on the diamond plate between the engines. It seemed that it was either coming from the seal on the back of the trans or the breather on the top.

This has only happened one time before on an 8+ hour run. I am curious if it came from the breather that maybe that trans was getting hot?

The other part of the equation is that my generator impeller seems like its lost a few blades since the gen was louder than normal. I plan on replacing that this weekend.

Could my transmission cooler be clogged? Is it possible something is clogged on that dripless shaft hose? Thats really the only part of the cooling system on my boat that I haven't touched since I bought it.

Work performed within the last few months:
-Cutlass bearings - new
-Shafts removed and checked for trueness
-Couplers re-faced
-New dripless shaft seals and spares
-Props tuned

To the average joe, there was nothing wrong to commence all of this work but I always felt the port side prop had a little wiggle to it.

I haven't run the boat in flat calm water yet but I am hoping this weekend will allow that as well.
 
This last weekend I ran the boat from Holland down to Saugatuck in some fairly rough weather and noticed something new.

On the way there and back the boat felt like it had a little more high frequency vibration than usual, I chalked it up to the conditions. However, I noticed that my port transmission had a little bit of fluid spray around it and on the diamond plate between the engines. It seemed that it was either coming from the seal on the back of the trans or the breather on the top.

This has only happened one time before on an 8+ hour run. I am curious if it came from the breather that maybe that trans was getting hot?

The other part of the equation is that my generator impeller seems like its lost a few blades since the gen was louder than normal. I plan on replacing that this weekend.

Could my transmission cooler be clogged? Is it possible something is clogged on that dripless shaft hose? Thats really the only part of the cooling system on my boat that I haven't touched since I bought it.

Work performed within the last few months:
-Cutlass bearings - new
-Shafts removed and checked for trueness
-Couplers re-faced
-New dripless shaft seals and spares
-Props tuned

To the average joe, there was nothing wrong to commence all of this work but I always felt the port side prop had a little wiggle to it.

I haven't run the boat in flat calm water yet but I am hoping this weekend will allow that as well.
Check and clean trans cooler before you do anything else.
 
This last weekend I ran the boat from Holland down to Saugatuck in some fairly rough weather and noticed something new.

On the way there and back the boat felt like it had a little more high frequency vibration than usual, I chalked it up to the conditions. However, I noticed that my port transmission had a little bit of fluid spray around it and on the diamond plate between the engines. It seemed that it was either coming from the seal on the back of the trans or the breather on the top.

This has only happened one time before on an 8+ hour run. I am curious if it came from the breather that maybe that trans was getting hot?

The other part of the equation is that my generator impeller seems like its lost a few blades since the gen was louder than normal. I plan on replacing that this weekend.

Could my transmission cooler be clogged? Is it possible something is clogged on that dripless shaft hose? Thats really the only part of the cooling system on my boat that I haven't touched since I bought it.

Work performed within the last few months:
-Cutlass bearings - new
-Shafts removed and checked for trueness
-Couplers re-faced
-New dripless shaft seals and spares
-Props tuned

To the average joe, there was nothing wrong to commence all of this work but I always felt the port side prop had a little wiggle to it.

I haven't run the boat in flat calm water yet but I am hoping this weekend will allow that as well.

were you able to tell if it was definitely transmission fluid spray? Check the fittings on the trans cooler to make sure they're tight, maybe the vibration or rough conditions has loosened them up
 
This last weekend I ran the boat from Holland down to Saugatuck in some fairly rough weather and noticed something new.

On the way there and back the boat felt like it had a little more high frequency vibration than usual, I chalked it up to the conditions. However, I noticed that my port transmission had a little bit of fluid spray around it and on the diamond plate between the engines. It seemed that it was either coming from the seal on the back of the trans or the breather on the top.

This has only happened one time before on an 8+ hour run. I am curious if it came from the breather that maybe that trans was getting hot?

The other part of the equation is that my generator impeller seems like its lost a few blades since the gen was louder than normal. I plan on replacing that this weekend.

Could my transmission cooler be clogged? Is it possible something is clogged on that dripless shaft hose? Thats really the only part of the cooling system on my boat that I haven't touched since I bought it.

Work performed within the last few months:
-Cutlass bearings - new
-Shafts removed and checked for trueness
-Couplers re-faced
-New dripless shaft seals and spares
-Props tuned

To the average joe, there was nothing wrong to commence all of this work but I always felt the port side prop had a little wiggle to it.

I haven't run the boat in flat calm water yet but I am hoping this weekend will allow that as well.

I'm clueless on diesel but my trans fill plugs "tighten up" after you push the plug into the fill opening by spinning the locking mechanism. Are your caps tight? Is it possible you were getting some leakage from a loose cap?
 
were you able to tell if it was definitely transmission fluid spray? Check the fittings on the trans cooler to make sure they're tight, maybe the vibration or rough conditions has loosened them up

It was definitely trans fluid. I should have taken a picture. What I can't tell is if it came from the breather and dripped down on the coupler which then flung it around or if it came from the seals.

I didn't think to check the fittings but thats a good idea!
 
I'm clueless on diesel but my trans fill plugs "tighten up" after you push the plug into the fill opening by spinning the locking mechanism. Are your caps tight? Is it possible you were getting some leakage from a loose cap?

That was actually one of the first things that I looked at, on mine the dipstick and the filter housing are the only "caps" that could do that on the trans.
 
Hello everyone. Wanted to introduce myself. I just stepped up from a 290 to a 400DA with twin diesels. Our maiden voyage was repositioning her from Midland ON to Keswick ON along the Trent-Severn waterway. It took us 8 hrs total yesterday. Love the boat, ran 8hrs on a 1/4 tank of fuel just wow! Previous owner had it 16 years and was very meticulous. Going to be so much more comfortable for our family of 4. Here’s some pics.
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