420/44 DB Owners Club

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Alex F, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Thanks Keith and Tom. I’m going to order a Mantis hook.
     
  2. my3sons

    my3sons Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 24, 2009
    NY (Lake Erie)
    2004 400DB, Onan 9 kw Gen, Highfield RIB,
    Cummins 6CTA
    No you don't have to, but some pink will be wasted if you don't.
    Tides seals do not need to be winterized, but if you clamp the line off, after you shut down the engines and remove the clamp, all the pink in the engine from the gear cooler up (gear cooler, crossover hoses and pipe, and heat exchanger) will drain out through the shaft seal(s) anyway. I prefer to clamp.
     
  3. craigswardmtb

    craigswardmtb Active Member

    143
    Jul 2, 2013
    Mystic, CT
    2004 420 DB
    2005 360 Fiesta Vee
    Cummins 6CTA
    Thx! Your response prompts another concern. If winterizing in the water will seawater travel in reverse through the shaft seals and hoses back up into the engine, thus displacing the antifreeze, if the lines aren't clamped? I'll be winterizing in water then pulled the next day.
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2019
  4. my3sons

    my3sons Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 24, 2009
    NY (Lake Erie)
    2004 400DB, Onan 9 kw Gen, Highfield RIB,
    Cummins 6CTA
    Yes, up to the static water line. Winterizing in the water requires removing and plugging the shaft seal lines and fittings
     
  5. Alex F

    Alex F Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2006
    East Coast
    2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Dual E120 MFD/Radar/XMWeather, ST7001 A/P, AIS, SeaLift
    T-Cummins 450Cs Straight-Drives, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
    Mine never had a stopper. I use bridle all the time.
     
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  6. techmitch

    techmitch Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    May 1, 2008
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River/Frog Mortar Creek MD.
    1999 270 DA
    Twin 4.3s W/Alpa I Gen II's
    There he is...
     
  7. techmitch

    techmitch Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    May 1, 2008
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River/Frog Mortar Creek MD.
    1999 270 DA
    Twin 4.3s W/Alpa I Gen II's
    Better yet, I've learned a lot of $hit from you guys. Where have you been?
     
  8. Tomco

    Tomco Active Member

    283
    Aug 16, 2012
    Ottawa, Ontario
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    GHS Hydraulic Lift
    11' Walker Bay, 30hp
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3M
    If it does fail I think the line will just slide thru the thimble - you will still have the bridle taking the load. No risk to the boat.
     
  9. Tomco

    Tomco Active Member

    283
    Aug 16, 2012
    Ottawa, Ontario
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    GHS Hydraulic Lift
    11' Walker Bay, 30hp
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3M
    Wow! makes a strong case to add the hatch and take a look.
     
  10. Carpediem44DB

    Carpediem44DB Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    660
    Aug 18, 2015
    Sanfransico Bay area
    2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge Raymarine gs165 w Quantum HD Radar
    Achilles 350 Dink
    Nick Jackson Davit
    Cummins QSC 8.3 500 HD
    This will be a project during this winter's to do list. Ill post my findings.
     
  11. becnme

    becnme Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    146
    Oct 31, 2008
    Fort Myers
    07 44 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSC 500
    It was quite the shocker to me. This picture is what I had after removal of the plug. You can see sawdust floating on the water inside the walk way.
     

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  12. Islandtime04

    Islandtime04 Member

    41
    Dec 10, 2017
    Chesapeake Bay
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    Walker Bay 325 Super Tender 30hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 8.3 480CE's
    Here are the fuel shut off valves locations. They sit on top of the tanks. The rear valves are somewhat hard to get to.

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  13. Chipfloater

    Chipfloater New Member

    3
    Aug 27, 2019
    2006 Sea Ray Sedan Bridge 44
    Cummins

    Thanks for taking the time to take and post these pictures. I’m quite sure those are the valves I turned off. I’ll need to spend a bit more time investigating my tanks.

    Thanks again,

    Chip
     
  14. Alex F

    Alex F Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2006
    East Coast
    2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Dual E120 MFD/Radar/XMWeather, ST7001 A/P, AIS, SeaLift
    T-Cummins 450Cs Straight-Drives, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
    Hey Mich,

    I'm still around, just some life events kept pulling me away from my time on the forum. The old technical issue with notifications not working doesn't help either. At least in the past it was working sometimes, now I never get any updates when threads have new posts or I get a PM. Unless I scan the site manually, I'm out of the loop.
     
  15. susanandlance

    susanandlance Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Feb 10, 2011
    Florida
    2007 Sea Ray 36 Sedan Bridge
    8.1 mercruisers
    Beautiful boat!! Congrats!!
     
  16. Irie308

    Irie308 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    5300DABA-48B7-40B8-84C3-F087C190862E.jpeg So the admiral wants underwater lights. I’m a little resistant as I rather not drill more holes in the boat. For now I am entertaining the idea but can’t seem to find the right locations. Any ideas? Per the photo we have a stern thruster and hydraulic platform that eats up most of the transom space. 137D20DE-BDE5-4722-860E-F564525CE0FE.jpeg
     
  17. Jeremygavin

    Jeremygavin Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Mar 6, 2012
    Cape Cod, MA
    2011 520 Sedan Bridge
    2016 Sea Ray 19 SPX OB
    2019 Walker Bay Generation 340
    Cummins QSM11s
    Mercury 150 Fourstroke
    Honda 40hp
    I have 4 transom lights on mine. My center lights are to the left and right of the platform struts. I have a pod coming out between the struts but it is the same without the pod. It looks like you have room in the same place to between your struts and stern thruster.
    The outside lights on the area outside of the trim tabs. Here is what it looks like in the water. I don’t have a great pick of the boat out of the water but here is one that you can see the starboard outside light and the center lights.

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  18. Irie308

    Irie308 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    Thanks Jeremy, The ones in the corners seem to be close to the edge. Didn't think they could mount them so close.
     
  19. Jeremygavin

    Jeremygavin Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Mar 6, 2012
    Cape Cod, MA
    2011 520 Sedan Bridge
    2016 Sea Ray 19 SPX OB
    2019 Walker Bay Generation 340
    Cummins QSM11s
    Mercury 150 Fourstroke
    Honda 40hp
    Those were where the factory ones were installed. I changed them from halogen lights to LED. As long as there is access in the bilge then you are fine. Lumitec Seablaze only require a small hole around 1/2” for the wire to go through so you are not cutting away a lot of material in the transom
     
  20. rlynch03

    rlynch03 Member

    116
    May 16, 2019
    Annapolis, MD
    07 52 Sedan Bridge, 2019 Brig Falcon 360HT-30HP Honda, 2008 Regal 3760-Sold, 2003 16' Dauntless
    Cummins QSM 11 660 HP w/ ZF 325-1A
    See attached locations of our Underwater lights. These are the factory locations then replaced with LED.



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