Hmmm....
I knew the date codes (month/year and model year), but I've not before come across HINs before where characters 4 and 5 (Y1, for discussion here) weren't a fixed model designator.
-Chris
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Hmmm....
I knew the date codes (month/year and model year), but I've not before come across HINs before where characters 4 and 5 (Y1, for discussion here) weren't a fixed model designator.
-Chris
missnmountains
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Nice boat. Congratulations.
The width of the trunk door is 50". The height from the bottom to the hand rail is 15". Below the trunk door is 12" for the hailing port; but remember the shore power hole is in the center. So you really have about 5"
Ken
The width of the trunk door is 50". The height from the bottom to the hand rail is 15". Below the trunk door is 12" for the hailing port; but remember the shore power hole is in the center. So you really have about 5"
Ken
I would say it starts off as a vibration I was only mentioning it because he’ll have the opportunity to replace them when doing the bottom
I would also say the age of the boat although ours is a few years older and never gave a sign of bad bearings I always worried about them had friends with the same year as mine give out so I didn’t wait for that.
It’s relatively inexpensive and good piece of mind.
swaterhouse
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Perfect - Thank YOU!
swaterhouse
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Cutlass bearings were done two years ago, not a ton of hours since so they should be good to go. Boat ran extremely smooth on sea trial.
The new tender is on order, due in late June/early July, we hedged our bets we would find a boat or if all else failed we would at least have a larger tender to use for the summer. Last summer we launched our old tender from the beach to go grab ice cream at the town docks. Besides a 20 minute sea trial when I sold and the 5 min idle speed "run" from storage to the dock those were the only power boat rides I had all summer last year. I did get a fair amount of sailing in though which I realized how much I missed. Would love to figure out a good way to bring a sailboat along.
The new tender is a slight upgrade, Highfield Sport 390 with a Yamaha 60. I was blown away that it was rated up to a 60, but since the Yamaha 50 and 60 are the same weight I will never say no to a little extra power! Will be pretty big on the platform but my measurements look good, and we really wanted the little bit of extra room and clear side decks.
swaterhouse
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This one is nearly identical, and also aluminum, with the same minor corrosion.
I think we will like having the shade permanently there, if not we will remove it and make another one we can remove like we had on our last boat. All three of us burn super easy so we always used our shade.
- May 16, 2019
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- 07 52 Sedan Bridge, 2019 Brig Falcon 360HT-30HP Honda, 2003 16' Dauntless
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- Cummins QSM 11 660 HP w/ ZF 325-1A
The only vibration I feel is when idling. I believe that is inherent of the qsm11’s.
Sorry about hijacking this site...
- Mar 25, 2008
- 5,526
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- 2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
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- MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
We love the shade as well - if we wat sun, we go on the bow sunpad. We even have a bimini on the dingy that we use when running her...
Robert Serviss
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- Feb 21, 2021
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- 2006 Sea Ray 58 sedan bridge Shipfaced
2013 Sea Hunt 225 ultra lil Shipfaced
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- MAN CRM 900
Do you know who did the faux teak job I'm thinking about doing mine and would like to find a company that has the dimensions already? Thanks
swaterhouse
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It is sea deck and was done by the first owner so no clue who did it.
I know our local installer will charge a nominal fee to template if you want to install yourself. He has a 3d scanner and has made a side business scanning all kinds of things.
Personally if I were to replace the sea deck I would probably go with flexiteek, not sure how we will like the sea deck.
How is your purchase making out? I forget where your home port is, but don't think it was local to the one you purchased.
Mine is back in the water following a full bottom job. Have a few more items to work on in TX before it starts the long delivery to MA.
- Mar 25, 2008
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- 2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
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- MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
The faux teak will get hot in the sun, so you might not want it out on the platform...
On the 550 and 58's do all of the bow thrusters have dual 8D batteries?
My friend who has an 05 550DB has two 8D's for the thruster which are less than a year old and both had a cell go bad. 6mo warrantee on the batteries so he is SOL. He is also having the Mastervolt charger checked out.
The question is - why 8D batteries? In my 52 I have dual Gp31's with the same bow thruster....
He is an experienced captain; uses the bow thruster very little....
Would there be any issues replacing the 8D's with Gp31's?
My friend who has an 05 550DB has two 8D's for the thruster which are less than a year old and both had a cell go bad. 6mo warrantee on the batteries so he is SOL. He is also having the Mastervolt charger checked out.
The question is - why 8D batteries? In my 52 I have dual Gp31's with the same bow thruster....
He is an experienced captain; uses the bow thruster very little....
Would there be any issues replacing the 8D's with Gp31's?
The 2006 58DB owners manual says two 8Ds for the thruster. (They may power the windlass, too, but I've either forgotten or haven't checked that.) I expect that probably carries through for all model years.
I'd guess thrusters benefit from a good mix of cranking amps and capacity (Amp hours).... and then there's a potential issue with voltage drop -- over the longish distance from batteries to bow. The thruster manual may give minimum specs for cranking amps, and voltage drop is probably calculate-able, to help decide whether G31s (and how many G31s) could work.
Not sure how (if?) capacity matters with thrusters, but typical for a pair of 8Ds would be about 490 Ah. Typical for 4x G31s would be somewhere between 400 at the low (and more typical) end to closer to 475-ish at the upper end. (Numbers off the cuff.)
Could be your bud bought cheap batteries?
-Chris
I'd guess thrusters benefit from a good mix of cranking amps and capacity (Amp hours).... and then there's a potential issue with voltage drop -- over the longish distance from batteries to bow. The thruster manual may give minimum specs for cranking amps, and voltage drop is probably calculate-able, to help decide whether G31s (and how many G31s) could work.
Not sure how (if?) capacity matters with thrusters, but typical for a pair of 8Ds would be about 490 Ah. Typical for 4x G31s would be somewhere between 400 at the low (and more typical) end to closer to 475-ish at the upper end. (Numbers off the cuff.)
Could be your bud bought cheap batteries?
-Chris
Thanks,
Per the electrical diag's the windlass is powered by the port bank; only the bow thruster is on those batteries.
His thruster batteries were replaced with Interstate brand by the brokerage he bought the boat from about a year ago.
A pair of 8D's in series (24 volt) have about 120 Ah useable. If the bow thruster needed 300 amps (for example) there would be over 0.4 hours of capability. That seems excessive for an experienced owner. I hardly ever use the bow thruster and when I have used it it was less than 30 seconds.....
So, if using Group 31 batteries (like in my boat) the useable Ah is 60 which is still over 0.2 hours of use. I can't see the benefit to invest in 8D's unless someone has good reason....
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His is a Max-Power thruster but don't know model number....
- Mar 25, 2008
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- 2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
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- MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
Could they be 8D's to cover the option of bow and stern thrusters installed?
My ‘05 has 8D’s. My rotation is to replace house set, starting set, and move the second oldest set down to the thruster bank, if that makes sense. I have a stern thruster too. I wonder if there is something to the length of the run as mentioned above? The 58 has the batts far aft in the lazarette and the 52 has them forward of the main engines - about half the distance? I don’t understand electricity flow enough to know if that is even a possible scenario.
Incidentally, there is a thermocouple sensor on the motor that will shut the thruster motor off if it gets too warm - I don’t think you could run it long enough without interruption to run the batteries dead.
Incidentally, there is a thermocouple sensor on the motor that will shut the thruster motor off if it gets too warm - I don’t think you could run it long enough without interruption to run the batteries dead.
swaterhouse
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This would be my guess, I think we looked at only one or two 58's with out the stern thruster out of about 20-30 boats. It does also help having all the same batteries for rotation like Jeff mentioned above.
Distance is cable size. If a cable being too small cannot convey the current the voltage will drop to the end item demanding the current and energy will be lost in heat. Other than the thruster having to work longer due to the losses the battery doesn't care.
This better justifies the need for the 8D's.
