Boat shopping never seems to end. The quest continues.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SeaNile, Feb 5, 2021.

  1. SeaNile

    SeaNile Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    677
    Aug 16, 2010
    Chadds Ford, PA
    1996 450 SunDancer
    10' dinghy w/3hp Nissan
    Caterpillar 3126 420hp
    Maybe i shouldn't have sold our perfect 04 340 in the fall but between the market and the quest for something bigger with diesels here I am 4 months into shopping and still haven't found the one yet. Initially wanted a 97-02 400/410 DA and looked at several. None of them really spoke to me as the one.

    Lots of road trips to MD to look at about 3 of the 400/410 boats, trip to DC for a 410, trip to MA for a 400 and they all pretty much showed the same. Never made a real offer on any of them. Then comes to the joys of searching online, lots of 4260 Regals, Formulas and even Maxum options. This prompted a trip back to Kent Narrows area of MD to check out a Regal 4260, like the layout but not this particular boat. Was really interested in the Trojan 44 Express but the one in Canada is practically impossible to buy and deliver thanks to COVID.

    Always though the 450 would be a little big for us but the wife quickly changed my mind and now we are looking at 96-? 450 with Cats, either the 3116 or 3126 flavor. So here I am on the eve of my flight to Missouri to check out a 96 450. Pictures look great, spoke to the owner for about an hour who has had the boat since 2004 and sounds like they have done a great job on upkeep and maintenance with all receipts and even a recent (june 20) out of water survey for insurance value.

    Never looked for so long or for so hard for a boat. Hopefully this is the one. Good thing I enjoy the process.

    Will update as the search continues.
     
  2. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    Repeat after me, “There is life after Sea Ray, there’s life after Sea Ray, there’s life after Sea Ray...”
     
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  3. yobub

    yobub Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    631
    Jul 29, 2016
    Northern Illinois
    1998 400 Sundancer
    Cat 3116's
    Did @fwebster boat already sell? If not, are you headed there next?
     
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  4. Shoyrtt

    Shoyrtt Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    205
    Jul 16, 2020
    Redlands, CA
    1999 450 Express Bridge
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    It is amazing that his boat is still available. SeaNile, look into shipping costs from FL to PA before you by the MO boat.
     
  5. SeaNile

    SeaNile Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    677
    Aug 16, 2010
    Chadds Ford, PA
    1996 450 SunDancer
    10' dinghy w/3hp Nissan
    Caterpillar 3126 420hp
    Oh I've looked at every angle. Always comes down to price. About 9800 from FL to my place and under 7k for the MO boat in transport.

    Let's remember this everyone, my budget started with 100k. Zero doubt Frank's boat is the one to buy but I can't afford it.
     
  6. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Chesapeake, Middle River
    91 250 Sundancer, gorgeous, no you can’t buy it.
    454 Bravo 1.
    Repeat after me “I won’t let the wife dictate the size of the boat”.
     
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  7. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Chesapeake, Middle River
    91 250 Sundancer, gorgeous, no you can’t buy it.
    454 Bravo 1.
     
  8. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Chesapeake, Middle River
    91 250 Sundancer, gorgeous, no you can’t buy it.
    454 Bravo 1.
    Grass greener. Been there, done that.
     
  9. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Chesapeake, Middle River
    91 250 Sundancer, gorgeous, no you can’t buy it.
    454 Bravo 1.
    My wife, god love her, will not lift a finger to help me maintain it, it’s my job. Can’t get her to even take canvas down.
     
  10. SeaNile

    SeaNile Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    677
    Aug 16, 2010
    Chadds Ford, PA
    1996 450 SunDancer
    10' dinghy w/3hp Nissan
    Caterpillar 3126 420hp
    When wife says we need a bigger boat I'm an easy sell. We were having a decent amount of fun on our 270 SunDeck this summer till we rafted up to our friends and their 32 Egg Harbor with shade, enclosed real head, and most importantly a generator and AC. Took but a second for us to look at each other and agree we need a bigger boat. Then came the 340 which was awesome. But, 2 kids, friends, twin 8.1l gas engines and all of a sudden we have our sights on bigger. Then comes the search for the 400/410. Liked them and wanted the perfect one till we walked by a 450 on the same dock. So here we are on the hunt for a 450DA.

    Flight leaved PHL 845am. Can't wait.
     
  11. Mark.60

    Mark.60 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    184
    Sep 6, 2020
    Westbrook Connecticut
    2007 44 sedan bridge
    Cummins qsc 500
    The 45 is the big brother to the 41.
    Put a big red bow on it and tell your wife , happy valentines day.
    I was looking at a 41 dancer and ended up with the sedan bridge , best upgrade I ever made
     
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  12. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    ???? This is relevant how?
     
  13. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    I can't offer much help. I went from a 20' bowrider that I owned for 10 years to a 330 Sundancer that I owned for another 10 and went from that to the 550 that we have owned for 10 years.

    Two-footitis? What the hell is that? Go BIG or go home.
     
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  14. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    1998 450 Sundancer, Achilles dinghy w/15hp
    3126 Cat's
    Join the club...
     
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  15. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    1998 450 Sundancer, Achilles dinghy w/15hp
    3126 Cat's
    Offer Frank $130k and suck it up...
     
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  16. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    1998 450 Sundancer, Achilles dinghy w/15hp
    3126 Cat's
    The other thing in Washington state you can form a LLC for $200 and put the boat in it and avoid 10% sales tax.
     
  17. SeaNile

    SeaNile Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    677
    Aug 16, 2010
    Chadds Ford, PA
    1996 450 SunDancer
    10' dinghy w/3hp Nissan
    Caterpillar 3126 420hp
    We boat out of Delaware where there is no tax on the boat. A nice bonus!!!
     
  18. SeaNile

    SeaNile Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    677
    Aug 16, 2010
    Chadds Ford, PA
    1996 450 SunDancer
    10' dinghy w/3hp Nissan
    Caterpillar 3126 420hp
    I have a survey from June 2020 for insurance purposes. Not concerned with the swim platform as that can be fixed or absolute worst case replaced but the stringer moisture level is a bit concerning. Frank has been kind enough to offer his thoughts on this boat but here are readings for the rest of you.

    (1) Port side Aft. Quarter Stern 6% Indicates normal moisture content
    (2) Starboard side Aft Quarter Stern 8% Indicates normal moisture content
    (3) Port side Deck 4% Indicates normal moisture content
    (4) Starboard side Deck 2% Indicates normal moisture content
    (5) Engine room stringers 10% Indicates normal moisture content
    (6) Top Deck area 5% Indicates normal moisture content
    (7) Bow Deck 4% Indicates normal moisture content
    (8) Swim Platform 37% Indicates elevated moisture content.
     
  19. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    Doesn't look that bad. The way it's explained to me is its a relative reading. Look at the stringer. All all areas 10% -- then probably normal. Or is it one spot jumps up to 10%, and the rest of the stringer is at 2%.
     
  20. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    Buying a boat in this market is ridiculous. Zero good inventory. High prices. I have been looking for more than a year. Called on two this week. Both under contract. Then was informed today that on one the seller bailed after the survey because of moisture in the bow area and the seller wouldn't compromise. Asked me if I was interested. Took a look at the survey -- 2/3s of the deck is wasted. Not that I wanted to deal with it, but seller won't conceed price. At least saved me the drive. I have all but given up on Sea Ray. Found a nice Tiara that's worth a look next week.
     
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