Cross Florida Barge Canal - navigable?

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  1. ADR

    ADR New Member

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    Florida Waterways System Plan.png
    I read in a FL Waterways Plan that the full barge canal was not completed for environmental reasons. However, it also shows that there is an "other waterway" that still exists from the St. Johns River to Inglis area on the Gulf Coast. The question is: is it big enough for medium sized SR (35') to go thru, or is this more runabout or canoe only sized? I'm not from the area, but would be interested if anybody knows this waterway and what boats, if any, can get through it. Thanks in advance for any info!
     
  2. MikeBravo

    MikeBravo Active Member

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    Treasure Island, FL
    2007 Sundancer 320
    2019 Edgewater 158cs
    1988 Grady White 24 Offshore(sold)
    DA-Twin 350 MAG MPI Mercruisers, V-drive
    Edge-Yamaha 70HP 4-Stroke
    I don't know of anyway to get from the east coast of Florida to the west coast except through Lake O.
     
  3. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Well-Known Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI Gen VI with V drives
    or go around the keys. Nothing in North Central Florida unless you are in a kayak, and even then you'll be walking.
     
  4. JPGator

    JPGator Active Member

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    Based on that image I think they referenced the Rousseau which dumps into the lake. From there you cant proceed outside of a kayak. Not sure how you would connect to the St. John.

    If you have any questions about the Caloosahatchee through lake O to the St. Lucie let me know. I’m familiar with that.
     
  5. k9medic

    k9medic Active Member

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    Florida
    1998 420 Aft Cabin
    twin 3116 CATs
    In Inglis, from the gulf to Lake Rousseau is navigable. There is a lock at the lake that has not been used in 40 years or so. You cannot go into the lake from the Gulf.

    The rest of the "other waterway" is parts of the Silver River, the Withlacoochee river and the Oklawaha river that would have been widened and followed if the canal had gone through.
     
  6. ADR

    ADR New Member

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    Thanks everyone for the info. I was afraid that it wasn't more than a ditch that never got dredged once I read about the canceling of the barge canal. Maybe someday, if they get the environmental stuff figured out...

    Cheers! -A
     
  7. 45Gunner

    45Gunner Member

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    Sep 22, 2019
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    2000 460 Sundancer. Raymarine E120. Raymarine Open Array Radar. Autopilot. Raytheon RN300 GPS.
    Twin 450 Diamond Series 6CTA 8.3M Cummins.
    I just purchased a 440 Express Bridge Cruiser which is currently located in the NE Tampa Bay Area. I have to move it to my dock in Boynton Beach which is near the Boynton Inlet. I had given some thought crossing thru the Okeechobee Water Way system buy after inquiring of several professional boat captains, I have decided not to go that route. I'm heading south to the Keys and will make the trip outside and off shore. Has anyone else made this trip and any words of wisdom they may want to share?
     
  8. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Well-Known Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI Gen VI with V drives
    Depending on your range, tolerance for running, and your crew, you will likely want to stop at Marco or Naples for the night. You don't have to go all the way to Key West. There's a cut through to channel 5, or you could cut through at Marathon. Red Tide is raising its ugly head in SW Florida again, mostly from Venice South to Naples, so it might be better to first roll further South, like Sarasota/Venice Inlet, fuel up, and run from there directly to Marathon, staying far enough offshore to avoid lobster pots and the tide.
    If you search the board, there was another member asking a couple of months ago about running the West Coast to the keys. Lots of good data there.
     
  9. 45Gunner

    45Gunner Member

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    Sep 22, 2019
    Boynton Beach, FL
    2000 460 Sundancer. Raymarine E120. Raymarine Open Array Radar. Autopilot. Raytheon RN300 GPS.
    Twin 450 Diamond Series 6CTA 8.3M Cummins.
    Thanks for the good info. Appreciated.
     
  10. 45Gunner

    45Gunner Member

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    2000 460 Sundancer. Raymarine E120. Raymarine Open Array Radar. Autopilot. Raytheon RN300 GPS.
    Twin 450 Diamond Series 6CTA 8.3M Cummins.
    The 440 EB Cruiser failed survey and we moved on and have purchased a 460 Sundancer in Ft. Myers. After reading and studying and getting input from several sources, I have decided to move the boat to my dock in Boynton Beach utilizing the OWW. Has anyone crossed recently going west to east? Did you get to Stuart in one day or did you stop along the way and if you did, where did you stay? I would like to make it thru all the locks in one day but am beginning to wonder if it is doable. Looking for advice and feedback from those that have done it. Thanks.
     
  11. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

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    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Did you buy the 460DA at North Star Yacht Club?

    Roland Martin's is a great halfway stop...
     
  12. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    It’s possible. Buddy of mine just finished yesterday. It’s a long day and you have to be at the first lock when they open full of fuel and ready to go. If you need specifics feel free to pm me.
     
  13. 45Gunner

    45Gunner Member

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    Sep 22, 2019
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    2000 460 Sundancer. Raymarine E120. Raymarine Open Array Radar. Autopilot. Raytheon RN300 GPS.
    Twin 450 Diamond Series 6CTA 8.3M Cummins.
    The boat I am buying was at a Marina located between two condo buildings. There is a tiki bar and restaurant near there. Not sure of the Marina name. Broker never gave it to me and I never noticed it.
     
  14. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

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    I believe that is the one I look down on. Canvas top (no hardtop)?
     
  15. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    When we had our previous boat we used to run across in one day, a very long day. Now we typically split the trip, spending the night at Roland Martin. This is due to draft and a couple of spots on the Stuart side downstream from the last lock. No issues, most any tide, in our 47db.

    City marina on the fort Meyers side is good for fuel and overnight. As said previously, if you want a one day trip, be at the first lock when they open.

    Run on plane every chance you get. Coming into Stuart, sunset bay marina, good for fuel and overnight.

    If you stop over at Roland Martin, outside from Stuart we used to run all the way to Aventura where we kept the boat.

    Running inside from Stuart, palm beach was about all we wanted in a day.
     
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  16. 45Gunner

    45Gunner Member

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    Sep 22, 2019
    Boynton Beach, FL
    2000 460 Sundancer. Raymarine E120. Raymarine Open Array Radar. Autopilot. Raytheon RN300 GPS.
    Twin 450 Diamond Series 6CTA 8.3M Cummins.
    Yup, no hardtop.
     
  17. 45Gunner

    45Gunner Member

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    Sep 22, 2019
    Boynton Beach, FL
    2000 460 Sundancer. Raymarine E120. Raymarine Open Array Radar. Autopilot. Raytheon RN300 GPS.
    Twin 450 Diamond Series 6CTA 8.3M Cummins.

    Thanks for the info. I would like to make it to Stuart in one day. I sort of figured I would have to be at the first lock at 7 am. Depending upon the seas, I would like to run in the ocean to get to Boynton but if the seas are too rough, its going to be a long day down the ICW.
     
  18. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    I have run from West Palm Beach to Boca Grand in one 18 hour day...........and it has also taken me 2 days to make the same run. Keep in mind that your ability to make a fast trip across the Okeechobee is largely dependent on other traffic locking thru.
     
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  19. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    Frank's point is a good one, often overlooked.

    You can come up to a lock which is open on your side, run right in and tie up.

    You can come up to a lock which has just closed the gates on your side and is starting the cycle - might be 45 minutes to an hour before you clear the other side.

    No control over that, and no way to plan for it.
     
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