Fresh Water Tank Gauge Inop.

Discussion in 'Electrical Stuff' started by 2000SR380, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. 2000SR380

    2000SR380 Member

    451
    Feb 17, 2014
    Emeryville, CA
    2005 Sea Ray 280 Sundancer, Express Cruiser
    Two 5.0L Gas Mercruiser V8, B3 Outdrives
    OK Campers. I need some help with the parts for the level indicator in my fresh water tank. We have a 2000 380 Sundancer, and the water tank is under the V-Berth. The system is a five wire, with a 5-rod sensor in the tank and a level read-out on the main DC Board. It has a momentary switch to light up the level indicator. Parts Book says I need Sender Part Number 333393 and Indicator Gauge Part Number 806901. The symptoms are that it shows "EMPTY" just fine, but at any other level, all the levels light up when the indicator panel is switched on. I pulled the sender first and it basically fell apart. I carefully re-assembled it and no change. I removed the board and assume it is the problem, but I can not find a replacement for the SENDER, and the cross over for the indicator 'board' I found in the CSR archives (Intellitech 00-00315-000 for the 86901) has no picture. I have asked all the smart guys I know, but so far nothing. I would really like to just replace both components and move on to my regular maintenance items. Help!??
     
  2. 2000SR380

    2000SR380 Member

    451
    Feb 17, 2014
    Emeryville, CA
    2005 Sea Ray 280 Sundancer, Express Cruiser
    Two 5.0L Gas Mercruiser V8, B3 Outdrives
    So, I have found a picture of exactly the 5-probe sender #33393 at FPMarine but they are out of stock and do not have a source. They call it "water level sensor with 5 levels. 1/4" male thread fitting". After one week of cruising the internet and asking all the smart guys I know, I am pretty much ready to just purchase a complete aftermarket set up, re-cut the tank, and modify the DC panel, to match. Nobody can confirm the Intelitech 00-00315-000 crossover, for the 86901, is correct or show me a picture. I can not believe a 2000 boat would present this level of difficulty just locating simple replacement parts. Most Sea Ray owners must just use a flashlight?? I would like the boat to remain as factory stock as possible but I could be done by now, if I had just gone with an aftermarket system.
     
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  3. 2000SR380

    2000SR380 Member

    451
    Feb 17, 2014
    Emeryville, CA
    2005 Sea Ray 280 Sundancer, Express Cruiser
    Two 5.0L Gas Mercruiser V8, B3 Outdrives
    OK Campers! Whoop here it is :0) Got some stellar assistance from SeaRay Customer Service (Thanks Tom). Got some most excellent service from 'Sporting Edge Ski and Marine' (Thanks Derek). Both Parts ordered today! P/N: 806901 Indicator, Water Level 12V - SeaRay has 13 in-stock (Current Price $44.00 each). P/N: 333393 Sending Unit, Water 20", 5-Wire - Pretty much unobtainium on-line, but they managed to dig one up for me (Current Price $58.50 each). Add some shipping and handling, a short road trip, and probably some 'Thank-you' beverages, and I think I am in the front row!
     
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  4. speakrdude

    speakrdude Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Northwest Arkansas
    2002 Sea Ray 340 DA
    Raymarine C80 Tri Data
    twin 6.2 MX MPI
    What were your symptoms? When I press the "tank level" button on my, new to me, (2002 340da) all the lights up. Not sure if that is "full water" or "completely empty".
    Doesn't ever change, full or empty of water.
     
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  5. Alexander ramirez

    Alexander ramirez New Member

    11
    Oct 16, 2018
    Sedan bridge 48 2000
    Caterpillars 3196
    I think i have a similar problem my gauge read full all the time , i am thinking of changing the P/N: 333393 Sending Unit, Water 16", 5-Wire - all I need to do is find the part . Does any body know who may have this part?
     
  6. Alexander ramirez

    Alexander ramirez New Member

    11
    Oct 16, 2018
    Sedan bridge 48 2000
    Caterpillars 3196
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  7. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer
    2001
    12" Axiom and 9" Axiom+ MFD
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
  8. Alexander ramirez

    Alexander ramirez New Member

    11
    Oct 16, 2018
    Sedan bridge 48 2000
    Caterpillars 3196
    Jajaja i think i need the gauge too , just to play it safe. Do you know the part number ? Could it be /N: 806901 Indicator?
     
  9. speakrdude

    speakrdude Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Northwest Arkansas
    2002 Sea Ray 340 DA
    Raymarine C80 Tri Data
    twin 6.2 MX MPI
    If your led gauge reads full all the time, most likely, the 4 transistors on the circuit board are shorted. That solved mine. I bought the transistors on line, and have about 40 left over. If you would like, I’ll send you 4. (N/c)
    Or send me the circuit board and I will install them for you. (N/c)
    Jim
     
  10. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    Fixing these gauges is a waste of time and money. The design is flawed.
     
  11. jstoneco

    jstoneco New Member

    2
    Jul 13, 2014
    Sacramento Delta
    Sea Ray 370 Sundancer 1993
    Twin 454 Mercruiser V-drives
    1993 searay 370DA freshwater tank under the V berth 5 wire plastic rod sending unit showed full when ever pressing the water level switch on the panel. I unscrewed the sensor allowing the wire to twist up, then it worked till I reinstalled it. Turned out to be the connections, the sensor wires are solid and the boat wires are stranded, connected with a crimp butt connector and 2 wires were loose. Replaced connectors and problem solved.
     
  12. Matt Michels

    Matt Michels Member

    49
    Apr 12, 2019
    Centreville, VA
    2006 Sea Ray 380DA
    Yanmar Diesel
    Hi Speakrdude - Jim- . Do you have any of those transistors left? I have a 2006 380 sundancer and the water light just stays on. On the other side, I dont think I'm getting any power from the waste monitor. I just bought the boat so I have a ton of bugs to work out.Any help you could give would be appreciated.
    Thanks
     
  13. speakrdude

    speakrdude Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Northwest Arkansas
    2002 Sea Ray 340 DA
    Raymarine C80 Tri Data
    twin 6.2 MX MPI
    Absolutely. Is the 06 model the same electrics as the 02’s?
    Can you snap a pic?
     
  14. Matt Michels

    Matt Michels Member

    49
    Apr 12, 2019
    Centreville, VA
    2006 Sea Ray 380DA
    Yanmar Diesel
    Here are pics from the parts catalog. I just checked the 2002 380 catalog and they are the same numbers.
    Snapshot water and waste.PNG Snapshop waste and water part info.PNG
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2019
  15. speakrdude

    speakrdude Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Northwest Arkansas
    2002 Sea Ray 340 DA
    Raymarine C80 Tri Data
    twin 6.2 MX MPI
    Yup. No problemo!
    Do you want me to send you 4 transistors, or do you want to cut loose and send to me? I can bench test it too. Either way, is no charge!
    Jim
     
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  16. Matt Michels

    Matt Michels Member

    49
    Apr 12, 2019
    Centreville, VA
    2006 Sea Ray 380DA
    Yanmar Diesel
    If you dont mind, I'll send it over to you. I'm headed to the boat tomorrow, so I'll pull it out. Message me you address....and thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
     
  17. Steve Barrett

    Steve Barrett Member

    30
    Oct 13, 2017
    Chesapeake Bay, Edgewater, MD
    Boatless
    Boatless
    773C1353-211E-4D36-9A30-D07E63C5AD0E.jpeg
    Is this the circuit board you are talking about?
     
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  18. speakrdude

    speakrdude Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Northwest Arkansas
    2002 Sea Ray 340 DA
    Raymarine C80 Tri Data
    twin 6.2 MX MPI
    Yup
     
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  19. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Jim - you are "DA Man"!!!
     
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  20. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    That he is!
     

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