Lessons from Covid-19 -- what do you think they are?

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Here's my 2c on it.

Assumption: Lowering the curve only spreads the number of Covid-19 deaths out over time. It does not reduce Covid-19 deaths.

If the assumption is correct, we should therefore open the economy, get people out of their homes and back to work. The exceptions are those vulnerable people in the population, and areas like NYC where the situation is more dire than most everywhere else.

Irrespective of when we start getting back to normal in society and the economy, going forward, we need to recognize the vulnerabilities Covid-19 has exposed and respond in ways to protect us going forward.

To that end:

1. We need to make the pharmaceutical industry an industry crucial to national security. That means no production outside the US, and strict controls over involvement from non-US citizens.

2. Same goes for the telecommunication and internet infrastructure in the US.

3. We need to financially support US businesses if they want to bring their production out of China back to the US or to some other country. Japan seems to be doing this.

4. We need to create a robust national storage system, like the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, for key disaster response materiel. This includes ventilators, facemasks, other protective gear, and 3-D printing designs for some of these materials.


The ingenuity displayed in 3-D printing designs for some of these materials should be captured and disseminated to every state.


Now onto connecting the dots. After 9/11 the discussions often focused on how the dots weren’t connected, primarily because no one could think of doing such a thing, so didn’t think others could think or do such a thing.

So I’m going to connect dots that you may or may not agree with. However, it’s important to consider the possibility that people think very differently from us and could purposely inflict Covid-19 on humanity. It is unwise to not entertain that it’s possible and have contingency plans in place.

One of the knocks on the military/national defense types is that they’re always fighting the last war and aren’t prepared for how the next one materializes. This is largely because, perhaps, we don’t think like people who would initiate war. We like to think we only respond to those who so initiate.

So here goes:

5. China’s long-term planning is well-known. Their plans look forward decades, unlike ours.

6. We need to at least consider that the Covid-19 situation was in some way a planned event. If not by China, then some other actor.

Remember that China has in the past killed millions of its own citizens to achieve its goals. It could be the Covid-19 release was intentional, a limited scope release to see how the world would respond. Their leadership may not care about the short term impact on the people or industry if it got them closer to their long term goals.

Next time it could be a much larger release of a virus for which they have a vaccine. Perhaps the release would be after they’d vaccinated the Chinese population -- those they wish to save, that is.

7. Even if it was not a planned release, it’s nearly a given that it will happen again. Covid-19 is not the only coronavirus instance. We have had SARS and Bird flu, just to name two. We need to start preparing when Covid-19 winds down.

8. If the Chinese don’t in the future launch biowarfare on us, someone is likely to. We need to be more prepared.

9. We cannot rely on the WHO. We need our own boots on the ground in whatever country is having an outbreak. We have to assume the WHO is providing cover to countries and hiding their containment deficiencies, or other deficiencies that jeopardize us all.

10. We need to be less trusting. I think other countries, none of which have our interests foremost in their minds, expect the US to always give in because our leadership has shown the predilection to prefer the “kumbaya” moment (even if imaginary) over appearing racist/xenophobic/nationalist, etc. Our leadership wants to be liked. Face it, nobody likes us unless they have something they want from us. They are all jealous of us.
 
Well said Eric, and like preppers do, we need stockpiles of PPE, we definitely got caught with our nickers around our ankles, something we are starting to do well, as in 9/11
 
Lesson: Fk China.

our stockpiles where set up for regional disasters like hurricanes. This is all of US and the world. Can’t really stockpile for that. But we need to ensure scaleable manufacturing in the US. Basically be able to turn it on when needed.
 
We need our own "health intelligence" that is constantly monitoring infectious diseases at home and around the world.

That we should ever rely on another country, especially China, to call us up and say, "yo guys, lots of our people are getting sick and we don't quite know what's up" is preposterous.
 
Just the facts Kevin......

More like your opinion. I hear the way POTUS talks about China's president and sometimes it seems overly flattering. I attribute that to the politics at hand and negotiating.

While it's only my opinion, I highly doubt they are good friends.

-Kevin
 
More like your opinion. I hear the way POTUS talks about China's president and sometimes it seems overly flattering. I attribute that to the politics at hand and negotiating.

While it's only my opinion, I highly doubt they are good friends.

-Kevin
This. They aren’t good friends. They are world leaders. He’s trying to get something done. He’s not going to come out and say the dude is an asshole.
 
I was once told
You fight with the equipment you have and then manufacture more to replace it.
You do not go hunting with one bullet, you go with more than you will ever need. The world did not have enough bullets. It is not the governments fault. It is the people who elect the government. People want the government to look after them but; are not willing to pay more taxes so the government can have all the supplies required all the time for any event.
 
Sad. One can not start a thread without someone bringing politics in to it.

I have a large group of friends that I have known for 50 years. Most of us are Conservatives. There are two that are not. Sadly, they are very vocal.

During the last presidency I never said a word. I do not say anything about this one either. Almost every time I get together or hear from them they “love” to throw political crap out. Now a days I avoid them. I do not invite them to play golf etc.
 
Sad. One can not start a thread without someone bringing politics in to it.

I have a large group of friends that I have known for 50 years. Most of us are Conservatives. There are two that are not. Sadly, they are very vocal.

During the last presidency I never said a word. I do not say anything about this one either. Almost every time I get together or hear from them they “love” to throw political crap out. Now a days I avoid them. I do not invite them to play golf etc.
Not just politics, but downright hatred. Sadly, Susan’s comment gives credence to the notion that the left is far more concerned with slinging insults than solving any real problems.
 
Keep your friends close and enemies closer

Sad that liberals with TDS can't realize this is exactly what Trump is doing. The Chinese on the other hand don't view Trump as their friend either they just want him GONE. They are lying to the world as to how this virus started and how many Chinese have been infected and died.
 
Fair enough, time will tell, he already thanked Putin and the King of Saudi today about the oil deal. News flash, those two are NOT our friends
I agree with your post sir.
 
First and probably only person I have ever blocked on a message board going back to UUNET in the late 80s. He offers nothing of value, just pure shit pot stirring through his TDS.
 
First and probably only person I have ever blocked on a message board going back to UUNET in the late 80s. He offers nothing of value, just pure shit pot stirring through his TDS.
I blocked him also for the same reasons. Enough is enough. He had his chances to add value to the discussions. The moderators won’t ban him so I banned him from my feed.
 
Different cultures = different idea of what is a fact.

When I was in international telecom we had training for the USA staff who were handling the customer service calls from around the world. Central to the training was the fact that there were cultural- and country-specific ideas around what a fact was.

Troubleshooting the global telecom network required information on what the customer’s experience was. What happened & when. Their equipment, the troubleshooting they’d already tried, etc.

Some countries/cultures were excellent in providing fact-based information that was actionable. Others not so much. To some, the only important fact was that the system did not work. It was emotional, not fact-based.

It’s interesting to see that even here in the USA we have sub-cultures that are not fact-oriented. Doubly interesting to see that some posters here at CSR are more emotion-based, rather than fact-based. Just MHO.
 

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