Omicron, the sequel

Mauler34Rod said:
Fake news! The truth is if you get the jab and you have an adverse effect and happen to croak it is listed as a unvaccinated death. Until you get the booster, your not fully vaccinated. Do your research.
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This is such absolute inflaming BS. Please tell us all the exact research that gives the actual numbers of people that have died from adverse effects of vaccines. Yes there are infinitely small numbers. And look at the numbers of people that died from COVID before vaccines were available, and after vaccines were available. Vaccines are doing what they were intended to do. Prevent deaths. Omicron is less dangerous than the variants that came before.

I really wish that governments were not doing what they are doing with mandates at this point. We have enough vaccinated at this point and enough that will get boosters. They should drop the mandates. And they should make those that chose not to be vaccinated to pay any and all costs of any COVID hospitalization that they need. Don’t insure it, and don’t fund it. You will have nothing to fear right? And that includes any future variants. If there is a really dangerous variant that comes later (or a new pandemic), the currently unvaccinated should be at the back of the bus for vaccination next time.
 
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firecadet613 said:
I'm just saying why would you take a jab from a company that cannot be sued over it, who has a history of receiving the biggest criminal fines in all of history - or another company that hasn't produced a successful product before their covid vax. o_O. It is your choice and right to do so, so have at it. I'm in shock SCOTUS struck down the OSHA mandate, but look for the dems to keep coming!

Deaths are at an all time high, even with the vaccine. Many are thanking the vaccine and it's boosters for giving them a very mild case of covid - what were the majority of cases before the vax came out? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Deaths are at an all time high even with the vaccine. Think about how much worse it would be if there wasn’t a huge number of people vaccinated that are not getting really ill.

It is a FACT that the vast majority of people in ICU and dying from COVID now are unvaccinated. And the majority of the population is vaccinated. So do the math. Without vaccines, there would be vastly more dying. Thank god there are evolving treatments at the same time, which is really helping keep deaths down too. A combination of availability of vaccines, and development of new treatments, and combatting misinformation is helping to control this son-of-a-bitch of a pandemic.

And those that are spreading misinformation and refusing to follow the evolving recommendations of the medical profession are doing FCK all to stop this pandemic. They are doing nothing to help, and have no solutions.
 
Creekwood said:
This is such absolute inflaming BS. Please tell us all the exact research that gives the actual numbers of people that have died from adverse effects of vaccines. Yes there are infinitely small numbers. And look at the numbers of people that died from COVID before vaccines were available, and after vaccines were available. Vaccines are doing what they were intended to do. Prevent deaths. Omicron is less dangerous than the variants that came before.

I really wish that governments were not doing what they are doing with mandates at this point. We have enough vaccinated at this point and enough that will get boosters. They should drop the mandates. And they should make those that chose not to be vaccinated to pay any and all costs of any COVID hospitalization that they need. Don’t insure it, and don’t fund it. You will have nothing to fear right? And that includes any future variants. If there is a really dangerous variant that comes later (or a new pandemic), the currently unvaccinated should be at the back of the bus for vaccination next time.
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My Uncle was vaccinated and he recently died. I don’t know if he died with the vaccine or from the vaccine. Does that count? Probably be counted as a covid death though. :)
 
Creekwood said:
Deaths are at an all time high even with the vaccine. Think about how much worse it would be if there wasn’t a huge number of people vaccinated that are not getting really ill.

It is a FACT that the vast majority of people in ICU and dying from COVID now are unvaccinated. And the majority of the population is vaccinated. So do the math. Without vaccines, there would be vastly more dying. Thank god there are evolving treatments at the same time, which is really helping keep deaths down too. A combination of availability of vaccines, and development of new treatments, and combatting misinformation is helping to control this son-of-a-bitch of a pandemic.

And those that are spreading misinformation and refusing to follow the evolving recommendations of the medical profession are doing FCK all to stop this pandemic. They are doing nothing to help, and have no solutions.
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Deaths will always be at an all time high. But watch out, they are now changing the numbers to save Brandon.
 
Creekwood said:
Deaths are at an all time high even with the vaccine. Think about how much worse it would be if there wasn’t a huge number of people vaccinated that are not getting really ill.

It is a FACT that the vast majority of people in ICU and dying from COVID now are unvaccinated. And the majority of the population is vaccinated. So do the math. Without vaccines, there would be vastly more dying. Thank god there are evolving treatments at the same time, which is really helping keep deaths down too. A combination of availability of vaccines, and development of new treatments, and combatting misinformation is helping to control this son-of-a-bitch of a pandemic.

And those that are spreading misinformation and refusing to follow the evolving recommendations of the medical profession are doing FCK all to stop this pandemic. They are doing nothing to help, and have no solutions.
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This is only a son-of-a-bitch pandemic due to the MSM. Go to any small town - you will likely find life as normal! I have yet to see anywhere that people are lying dead in the streets, aside from the propaganda out of Wuhan when this all started. This is a worldwide pandemic, right?

The majority of people weren't getting really ill before the vaccine came out. Remember 2020? If it weren't for the nursing home deaths (caused by placing the ILL patients into nursing homes), the death number wouldn't have been that high!

EARLY TREATMENT would prevent all this BS, but instead it is all about getting the jabs in arms...where the true money is! There are articles out about how family members had to SUE the hospitals to release their family members or give them Ivermectin. Going to the hospital with covid typically ends one way - on a vent with remdesivier and that doesn't end well...again...follow the money! The NIH and CDC have one "approved" treatment path - why don't they allow doctors to treat patients as they see fit? The government should NOT come between a doctor and their patient!

The FACT is ICUs are not as full of covid patients as they claim them to be (and they don't build ICU beds to sit empty...). The FACT is hospitals are spreading covid to those who arrived without it, but came in for other treatment/medical needs. Look up the data coming out about those hospitalized WITH covid vs because of covid. Have a broken arm and go to the ER, you'll get a covid test. If you're positive - your counted as a covid hospitalization!

There is plenty of data, treatments and studies out there - but the majority are being censored by big tech. Why is that? Is it because they go against the narrative and the vaccine?! Isn't that was science is - testing, treatment and the study of different things? Why censor it!?

I'll say it again - if one is dumb enough to get their medical advice from a meme, the evening news or an internet forum, they reap what they sow! The sky isn't falling @Creekwood, but stupidity is!

They say hospitals are stressed and short staffed - after they let go of many employees. To the point they are letting covid positive, vaccinated staff return to work. All the while knowing the vaxxed can spread covid. The CDC released updated mask guidance - that N95s and KN95s provide better protection than a piece of cloth over your mouth and nose. No shit sherlock. It is a sign of how stupid the general public is when they have to put that information out there...

If I recall correct, you are vaxxed so you should have nothing to worry about. If you are vaxxed you should be able to live your life as normal, not in fear and no longer wearing a mask or social distancing. But as you see, that isn't the case...you and others were sold a false bill of goods with this "vaccine"...
 
440 Jim said:
Your choice, your body

Make it available

Educate yourselves and make your own choice, based on the knowledge you have obtained in your research.

Whether right or wrong in the end, or whatever side the info is coming from

No mandates, we are in a free society. Plan to keep it that way.

I keep my status to myself, and I am pleased the Supreme Court (what kinda name is that?) was not in favor of the mandates, although I am disappointed in 3 of the judges.

I reckon that's all.
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oh...and speaking of the Supreme Court...remember Biden wanted to circumnavigate the rules by expanding the court to add enough libs so he could have his way? Look back to his plan. He only wanted to add enough so that the libs would have the majority...no more and no lets talk about trying to manipulate the system with a conniving plan like that. That was his only roadblock to a full dictatorship
 
Life in our town is about as normal as it ever was. We have a population of 8000 or so and maybe 1/3 wear masks but go anywhere and everything else looks normal. No panic around here. And oddly we are majority democrat. All of the local elections are won by democrats. Mostly older generation Italians that were former union steel workers in the 70's. Today it's their kids kids but still vote democrat for the most part.
 
“This is such absolute inflaming BS. Please tell us all the exact research that gives the actual numbers of people that have died from adverse effects of vaccines.”

@Creekwood….the “exact research that gives the actual numbers” is that even possible? Where would you gather this information? From our deceptive government or yours? The data is censored and manipulated but believe what you will.

My point is, doesn’t it strike you as odd that citizens here in our country are being offered free donuts, lottery $, burgers, marijuana and beer for vaccine compliance? In the name of “public health”? Does it seem outrageous that the PCR tests we relied upon for 2 years have now been pulled by the FDA/CDC for failure to differentiate between Covid and flu? The flu didn’t magically disappear. Does it seem suspect that the quarantine metrics keep changing in an increasingly bizarre manner? The current toolkit rewards vaccine compliance. The fullyvaxxed and boosted have no quarantine imposed despite their ability to both contract and spread virus. Is it not curious to you that the FDA/CDC wish to wait 75 years to release data related to their vaccine studies?

Fraud and violation of established laws are running rampant in our country as Biden’s clan think they can do whatever they want. There is a bigger agenda at play here, but you go ahead and continue to keep your head in the sand. To me, there are too many signs that something is not right.


What’s the old saying? “If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.”
 
firecadet613 said:
Have you seen the infection rates in HIGHLY VACCINATED countries / areas? It has been proven the vaccine does not stop infection or transmission, so yes, it spreads the virus.
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Sorry Charlie. Absolutely not true. The vaccine does not contain live or killed virus. It is impossible for it to spread the virus.
 
firecadet613 said:
This is only a son-of-a-bitch pandemic due to the MSM. Go to any small town - you will likely find life as normal!
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This is very true. Now I live in a very small town about 1200 people, but we were back to normal basically in the summer of 2020. My grandaughter played in a summer league that year in the nearest big town (38 miles) , and we were packed into the gym with very few masks to be seen. The walmart in that town did a mask mandate, but I think it lasted 7-10days before they yanked it, as people just quit going there.
We lost 4 souls in our county during this whole "pandemic" I personally knew 3 of them, and knew the family of the 4th. All 4 of them had serious health issues.
If you look at packed college football stadiums, and pro football stadiums, I think the majority of people are over the covids, they just want to live life, News media, and politicians are standing in their way, and it is not because they "care" about us.
 
Mauler34Rod said:
“This is such absolute inflaming BS. Please tell us all the exact research that gives the actual numbers of people that have died from adverse effects of vaccines.”

@Creekwood….the “exact research that gives the actual numbers” is that even possible? Where would you gather this information? From our deceptive government or yours? The data is censored and manipulated but believe what you will.

My point is, doesn’t it strike you as odd that citizens here in our country are being offered free donuts, lottery $, burgers, marijuana and beer for vaccine compliance? In the name of “public health”? Does it seem outrageous that the PCR tests we relied upon for 2 years have now been pulled by the FDA/CDC for failure to differentiate between Covid and flu? The flu didn’t magically disappear. Does it seem suspect that the quarantine metrics keep changing in an increasingly bizarre manner? The current toolkit rewards vaccine compliance. The fullyvaxxed and boosted have no quarantine imposed despite their ability to both contract and spread virus. Is it not curious to you that the FDA/CDC wish to wait 75 years to release data related to their vaccine studies?

Fraud and violation of established laws are running rampant in our country as Biden’s clan think they can do whatever they want. There is a bigger agenda at play here, but you go ahead and continue to keep your head in the sand. To me, there are too many signs that something is not right.


What’s the old saying? “If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.”
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Nope, it doesn't strike them as odd. They will likely say it is perfectly normal...:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Mauler34Rod said:
“This is such absolute inflaming BS. Please tell us all the exact research that gives the actual numbers of people that have died from adverse effects of vaccines.”

@Creekwood….the “exact research that gives the actual numbers” is that even possible? Where would you gather this information? From our deceptive government or yours? The data is censored and manipulated but believe what you will.

My point is, doesn’t it strike you as odd that citizens here in our country are being offered free donuts, lottery $, burgers, marijuana and beer for vaccine compliance? In the name of “public health”? Does it seem outrageous that the PCR tests we relied upon for 2 years have now been pulled by the FDA/CDC for failure to differentiate between Covid and flu? The flu didn’t magically disappear. Does it seem suspect that the quarantine metrics keep changing in an increasingly bizarre manner? The current toolkit rewards vaccine compliance. The fullyvaxxed and boosted have no quarantine imposed despite their ability to both contract and spread virus. Is it not curious to you that the FDA/CDC wish to wait 75 years to release data related to their vaccine studies?

Fraud and violation of established laws are running rampant in our country as Biden’s clan think they can do whatever they want. There is a bigger agenda at play here, but you go ahead and continue to keep your head in the sand. To me, there are too many signs that something is not right.


What’s the old saying? “If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.”
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There are a few of you that have such jaded views of the world and such paranoia. Its truly sad. Sad because its a miserable way to look at your country and the vast majority of your fellow Americans. None of the things you are listing are evidence of a massive global conspiracy. Rather, its the evidence of how governments and the medical community are reacting and adapting to the evolving pandemic. You internet arm-chair quarterbacks have zero better information or insights and rely 100% on what you get from your version of MSM.

It reminds me of when you go to a bar and listen to a bunch of old fat guys that have never played football in their lives second guessing every play and coaching decision after the fact.
 
Creekwood said:
There are a few of you that have such jaded views of the world and such paranoia. Its truly sad. Sad because its a miserable way to look at your country and the vast majority of your fellow Americans. None of the things you are listing are evidence of a massive global conspiracy. Rather, its the evidence of how governments and the medical community are reacting and adapting to the evolving pandemic. You internet arm-chair quarterbacks have zero better information or insights and rely 100% on what you get from your version of MSM.

It reminds me of when you go to a bar and listen to a bunch of old fat guys that have never played football in their lives second guessing every play and coaching decision after the fact.
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Or, you put your trust in what your told without question. Tell me, when Biden ordered children younger than 5 to mask up in head start programs was that based on science? It was purely a government mandate intended to bend the knee of the governed. No way it wasn’t. They have tried at every crossing to restrict the rights of free people. Disgusting to think that those who want to access and utilize available information are criticized. Oh and covid death rates were the same a year ago as they are today, still less than 1%.
 
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Omicron is a cold. Upper respiratory infection. That’s it. Put a scary name on a cold and you get the sheep herding to get the jab. It’s all a hoax. But sadly the hoax has succeeded in identifying the sheep from the wolves.

I prefer being the wolf.
 
Creekwood said:
There are a few of you that have such jaded views of the world and such paranoia.
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Open your eyes to what is happening around the world and not just the BS the MSM pushes. With all the supply chain issues over the past year, you'd be a fool to not be prepared for that and other events. If you recall, at least in the USA, it was just "15 days to stop the spread", which has turned into much more than that!

Paranoia would be believing the BS you see the MSM pushing on the masses and you see many people complying. Getting that little poke, multiple times. Wearing a mask when they are in public (being brave, is what some here call it), canceling vacations and staying home among other things. As I said earlier, turn off the TV and you'll quickly realize in most of America, covid isn't a thing. By God man, it's a "pandemic" with a less than 1% death rate (with no treatment)!

I'd place a good bet most on here love our country, our fellow Americans and are sitting here amazed how many sheep there are among us! The democratic party is hell bent on destroying America and turning it into a liberal utopia. My hope is that it can be saved before it's too late...
 
sbw1 said:
Sorry Charlie. Absolutely not true. The vaccine does not contain live or killed virus. It is impossible for it to spread the virus.
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It does but in this way.

Many, mostly old farts, remain under the false impression that once boosted they’re safe and that they can’t catch the vyyyyrus. We all know this is false but you’d be surprised how many sheep still believe this. So they wonder around spreading because they all have it (see Omicron) and give it to all their shuffleboard friends, golf buddies, and dock neighbors.
My wife works at Cleveland Clinic. She still, to this day, has to explain to old farts on a daily basis that they can still get it AND spread it. To a person they all are shocked in disbelief.

Sheep!
 
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