Prestige 460 F type vs Galeon 460 Fly

TonyQSC500

TonyQSC500

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Jan 7, 2018
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Canton, Oh.
Boat Info
sold 2007 44 sundancer. White hull with black stripe and canvas.
Engines
Cummins QSC 500’s V-drives.
I would like to get some opinions on these two boats. Both boats are available with Volvo Pod drives and V- drives. I prefer the V- drives and the joystick control doesn't really impress me. I still use the sticks on the pod boats I have driven because I prefer them. I am sure it is something I would like after getting use to it. I had an issue the first time I drove a pod boat, the wind caught the boat and I Let go of the joystick and grabbed the sticks to correct the boat and get us out of trouble, it was a natural reaction. I know the gallon has a lot of technology which can be good and bad. My question is, which boat do you feel is a better built boat? which one would handle the great lakes the best ( mostly the western basin of Lake Erie). Are they both solid hull boats or are they cored? Fit and finish? etc?

We will be sleeping on the boat on the weekends and we plan on taking them on long weekend trips. We will be doing some Island hopping also. It will mostly be my wife and I and occasionally our two adult kids will tag along.
 
I was on a Galeon 46 a couple years ago....I compared it to a cheap motor home...the one I was on was at a boat show and I couldn’t believe they put it in a show falling apart... I was on another a few months later and had the same impression ......
I am not positive but I think colony had the first prestige I toured it and I had the same motor home feeling

what’s the attraction coming from a 44 Sundancer ?
 
I've been on both, as well as larger models of the two manufacturers. My impression is that you will be happy with the price point and ultimately unhappy with the fit, finish and overall quality of the boats. The Prestige in particular gets away with smaller HP power plants as they are much lighter than an equivalent sized Sea Ray.
 
Cabinets and fit/finish aside look at the hull and FRP layup schedules on these boats; that in it's self should be telling.
Also, look at the resale value curves comparatively that should also be telling.
 
Blueone said:
I was on a Galeon 46 a couple years ago....I compared it to a cheap motor home...the one I was on was at a boat show and I couldn’t believe they put it in a show falling apart... I was on another a few months later and had the same impression ......
I am not positive but I think colony had the first prestige I toured it and I had the same motor home feeling

what’s the attraction coming from a 44 Sundancer ?
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I’ve kicked myself from the day we sold the 44. The reason we sold it is my parents moved to Nevada and I was working every Saturday and we where not using the boat. I’d love to have another one but I don’t want a boat that old. Well it’s not completely out of the question if I find one with low hrs and in great shape. The problem is I’m a Sea Ray person and with the fact they quit building the Yachts it’s hard to find a boat we like as well. I’ve looked at a lot of different brand boats and there isn’t a boat that we like as well as the Sea Rays. Well that style of SR. The last models we do not like. The Galeon and Prestige are two boats I haven’t spent time on.
I have done a little research on the Prestige after posting this and I’ve found bad reviews in the hulls. These are just two boats I was considering looking at but the more I look into them I don’t think I want to deal with the issues. The Galeon feels tight to me, at least the one I was on at the boat show a couple years ago. I’m going to keep looking.
 
TonyQSC500 said:
I’ve kicked myself from the day we sold the 44. The reason we sold it is my parents moved to Nevada and I was working every Saturday and we where not using the boat. I’d love to have another one but I don’t want a boat that old. Well it’s not completely out of the question if I find one with low hrs and in great shape. The problem is I’m a Sea Ray person and with the fact they quit building the Yachts it’s hard to find a boat we like as well. I’ve looked at a lot of different brand boats and there isn’t a boat that we like as well as the Sea Rays. Well that style of SR. The last models we do not like. The Galeon and Prestige are two boats I haven’t spent time on.
I have done a little research on the Prestige after posting this and I’ve found bad reviews in the hulls. These are just two boats I was considering looking at but the more I look into them I don’t think I want to deal with the issues. The Galeon feels tight to me, at least the one I was on at the boat show a couple years ago. I’m going to keep looking.
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Have you looked at Maritomo?.... I am very impressed with the specs and quality.. especially the X50
https://www.maritimo.com.au/model/maritimo-x50/
 
Take a look at Rivera Yachts. They are a solid boat. I don't really like the "wing" look of their express boats; their bridge boats are more to my liking. You may want to have a conversation with @Capt. Rusty Higgins. If OA built a boat in the 45 to 55 foot range I'd be all over that also.
 
There are a lot of Prestiges in our area and the ones that are getting some age on them show it. Nothing like our 15-20 year old Sea Rays that still look brand new.
 
ttmott said:
Take a look at Rivera Yachts. They are a solid boat. I don't really like the "wing" look of their express boats; their bridge boats are more to my liking. You may want to have a conversation with @Capt. Rusty
Higgins. If OA built a boat in the 45 to 55 foot range I'd be all over that also.
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I like the Riviera’s but I have been told they are not good Great Lake boats as in they don’t like the choppy water.
 
TonyQSC500 said:
I like the Riviera’s but I have been told they are not good Great Lake boats as in they don’t like the choppy water.
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I have quite a bit of time on a 2011 44 Riviera coupe and a 48 Sport Yacht, they handle everything you can throw at them in the Great Lakes and then some.

There are a TON of Prestiges on Lake Michigan now, I attribute the popularity to the layout and the price point. They figured that out really well. It suits most people for the amount the boats actually get used.

If you want to be in the upper end of things, look at: Tiara, Riviera, Sunseeker, Princess etc.
 
What do you think of buying a new boat from a dealer that is almost 400 miles away? Thats where the closest Riv dealer is located from where the boat will be docked.

I am not sold on Tiara's or Sunseekers. I will look at Princess and Maritomo.

What about Azimut?

Maybe I should look at some used Sea Ray 470's? I am just worried about the Zeus drive boats and they are almost impossible to find with shafts. I should have kept the 44 lol

This is going to be a lot harder than I thought, maybe I just need to stop being so picky.
 
+1 for azimut
I thought the fit and finish was excellent.
 
-1 on the Azimuts... You talk to captians here in SoFlo and you will here they are horrible not to mention the Marine Max "lack of support". I had a Princess but the new builds have gotten sloppy I hear with the ownership change. Can't go wrong with Sunseeker they still check every box when you talk to pro captians. Also the Persings get good reviews from captians down here. On the other hand you find the right Sea Ray and spend the money to make it what you want you end up with a pretty nice yacht for the $$$

Check out these guys, lots of professional captians on this forum
https://www.yachtforums.com/threads...years-old-used-motor-yachts-40-75-feet.31094/

https://www.yachtforums.com/threads/galeon-yachts-the-good-and-the-bad-your-thoughts-please.33085/
 
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Yea, a lot of them hang out at local watering holes around here... One thing for sure they tell you what they see...
 
ocgrant said:
-1 on the Azimuts... You talk to captians here in SoFlo and you will here they are horrible not to mention the Marine Max "lack of support". I had a Princess but the new builds have gotten sloppy I hear with the ownership change. Can't go wrong with Sunseeker they still check every box when you talk to pro captians. Also the Persings get good reviews from captians down here. On the other hand you find the right Sea Ray and spend the money to make it what you want you end up with a pretty nice yacht for the $$$

Check out these guys, lots of professional captians on this forum
https://www.yachtforums.com/threads...years-old-used-motor-yachts-40-75-feet.31094/

https://www.yachtforums.com/threads/galeon-yachts-the-good-and-the-bad-your-thoughts-please.33085/
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I agree on the Azimuts. I'd never own one of those Italian Bayliner's at any price, but that's just me. Pretty exteriors, gaudy interiors and all have wasted space with the lower helms and crappy systems.
 
We were in the market for a Maritimo before COVID we even spent a few days onboard a Maritimo with CAPT RUSTY (belated happy bday buddy) and we where impressed of the build and quality we where in some sloppy conditions in the gulf and all I can say is it’s a battle wagon for sure. You may want to reach out to the Capt as he now moves different brands you’ll get an honest opinion from him. Best of luck on your search.
 
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