Sarah Palin

. However the post bout his closet abortions etc was pure rhetoric and wrong, and has nothing to do with his current ineptitude.
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It has everything to do with him this is what he fought for in Illinois. Oh yea he did help get the motor voter law passed so Illegal’s could sign up to vote
 
Daddubo said:
So then you think we should get the finest lawyers for the people that are trying to kill us and read them their rights on the battle field right:smt021
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Way to extrapolate to an asinine finality. You should be Palin's campaign manager.

When a country who pride sitself on justice and due process strays away from that in our system of law, just so people like you can feel good about immediate justice out of anger, then we are in more trouble than a want-to-be president reads crib notes form her hand on a subject she should be well versed in.

I agree, we allowed this menace to the world to lawyer up, but unfortunately, our less than perfect rules allowed this to happen, not a single person deciding it. To blame Obama is pure rhetoric.
 
Daddubo said:
. However the post bout his closet abortions etc was pure rhetoric and wrong, and has nothing to do with his current ineptitude.
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It has everything to do with him this is what he fought for in Illinois. Oh yea he did help get the motor voter law passed so Illegal’s could sign up to vote[/QUOTE]

Wow.
 
billandamy said:
I totally agree, Obama is riding on the same short bus to nowhere, and I have conceded this, whereas I was defending him in the beginning of his term and pleading to give him a chance, in life and on this forum. Ill admit I was wrong on Obama, and it is becoming increasingly clear that we have the wrong man in office. So, yes, I do change my mind and call them as I see them. However the post bout his closet abortions etc was pure rhetoric and wrong, and has nothing to do with his current ineptitude.

With Palin, I am continually vindicated in my mind time and time again with my assessment of her ability to run this country. So, I do believe I am fair, for the most part and willing to change when time has allowed me to see what others may be speaking about, and Ill admit when wrong. Sorry, Palin, imo, and no, I dont see this changing, is a very very poor choice for anything other than a Fox news associate.
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Fair enough. Understand that I too am open to options. I just don't see much to cheer about in the GOP. For me, Palin (for now) is the best of what appears to be a pretty limited group of choices. Perhaps there will be some improvements. I supported Steve Forbes, so I probably cannot be trusted for my political acumen.
 
JediJD said:
Fair enough. Understand that I too am open to options. I just don't see much to cheer about in the GOP. For me, Palin (for now) is the best of what appears to be a pretty limited group of choices. Perhaps there will be some improvements. I supported Steve Forbes, so I probably cannot be trusted for my political acumen.
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I would say Forbes is is decent choice and I would give him a chance if he was elected into office. Who is to say what a wild card like Forbes would do in office? Perhaps it's time for a businessman with some brains and from what I see, ethics to run the business of government. I all for changing it up from dem/pub for a while.
 
billandamy said:
I would say Forbes is is decent choice and I would give him a chance if he was elected into office. Who is to say what a wild card like Forbes would do in office? Perhaps it's time for a businessman with some brains and from what I see, ethics to run the business of government. I all for changing it up from dem/pub for a while.
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I have to agree I think the biggest problem with Washington is that there are to many Lawyers, and we all know that lawyers make a living by lying and they make laws to advance their profession. The person doesn’t have to be Republican or Democrat just some one that his only agenda is to make this country better and care about the people and not corporations or special interest groups.

In illinois the Govenors serve 2 terms one in Office and one in Jail.:grin:
 
I said I was not going to post anything else here but I do want to share this email I just got.Its a bit lenghty but it does explain my point very well.

> > READ TO THE VERY END! VERY ENLIGHTENING!!!
> >
> > By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman..
> > As posted in comments on Greta's article referencing the MOVEON ad about
> > Sarah Palin.
> >
> >
> > The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town in
> > Alaska . I understand Alaska politics but never understood national
> > politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side
> > of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric,
> > it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things
> > that I'm about to mention here.
> >
> >
> > 1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because
> > as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican
> > and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's "Corrupt
> > Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in
> > State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by
> > skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la" (well,
> > you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever
> > done anything similar.
> >
> > 2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect
> > the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new
> > system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest
> > corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door
> > hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaskaresidents
> > went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other
> > huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name
> > of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
> >
> > 3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is
> > she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known
> > as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in
> > the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need
> > something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use
> > the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was
> > extravagant.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook
> > (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State
> > vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and
> > dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that
> > she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those
> > other governors.
> >
> >
> > 4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also
> > managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas
> > pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the
> > history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If
> > that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed
> > while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies
> > with her other hand.
> >
> >
> > 5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place
> > called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they
> > couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No
> > governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was
> > revoking their lease and kicking them out.. They protested and threatened
> > court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the
> > court house. Alaska won again.
> >
> >
> > 6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for
> > electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan
> > for Alaska to be at 50% renewables by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can
> > give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona
> > Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's just a
> > cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors
> > who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't be
> > holding my breath.
> >
> >
> > By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election
> > and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent
> > screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what
> > happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it
> > will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.
> >
> >
> > You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media,
> > along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit
> > her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral
> > people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents' wives.
> >
> >
> > So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts,
> > determination, honesty, and morals. I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to
> > the biased media.
> >
> >
> > If you've read this far ...............................................
> > First Lady Michelle Obama's Servant List and Pay Scale
> >
> > First Lady Requires More Than Twenty Attendants
> >
> > 1. $172,2000 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
> >
> > 2. $140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C . (Deputy Assistant to the President and
> > Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
> >
> > 3. $113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G (Special Assistant to the President
> > and White House Social Secretary)
> >
> > 4. $102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the President
> > and Director of Communications for the First Lady)
> >
> > 5. $100,000 - Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President and
> > Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
> >
> > 6. $90,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First
> > Lady)
> >
> > 7. $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the
> > First Lady)
> >
> > 8. $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for
> > the First Lady)
> >
> > 9. $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for
> > the First Lady)
> >
> > 10. $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social
> > Secretary)
> >
> > 11.. $64,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social
> > Secretary)
> >
> > 12. $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and
> > Events Coordinator For The First Lady)
> >
> > 13. $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Dir ector of Advance and Trip
> > Director for the First Lady)
> >
> > 14. $57,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the
> > First Lady)
> >
> > 15. $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press
> > Secretary To The First Lady)
> >
> > 16. $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special=2 0Assistant for Scheduling and
> > Traveling Aide To The First Lady)
> >
> > 17. $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence
> > For The First Lady)
> >
> > 18.. $43,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social
> > Office)
> >
> > 19. $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of
> > Staff to the First Lady)
> >
> > 20. $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social
> > Secretary)
> >
> > 21. $35,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
> >
> > 22. $35,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of
> > Correspondence for the First Lady)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > (This is community organizing at it's finest.)
> >
> > There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has
> > created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the
> > First Lady's social life. One wonders why she needs so much help, at
> > taxpayer expense, when even Hillary, only hadthree; Jackie Kennedy one;
> > Laura Bush one; and prior to Mamie Eisenhower social help came from the
> > President's own pocket.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Note: This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and
> > "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard Air
> > Force One to Europe ..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > FRIENDS.....THESE SALARIES ADD UP TO SIX MILLION, THREE HUNDRED SIXTY
> > FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($6,364,000)FOR THE 4 YEARS OF OFFICE????? AND WE
> > ARE IN A RECESSION????? WELL....MOST OF USARE. I GUESS IT'S OK TO SPEND
> > WILDLY WHEN IT'S NOT YOUR OWN MONEY?????
> >
> >
> > Copyright 2009 Canada FreePress.Com
> >
> >
> > _canadafreepress.com/i ndex.php/article/12652_
> > (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652)
> >
> > Yes, I know, The Canadian Free Press has to publish this because the
> > USA media is too scared they might be considered racist. Sorry USA !
> >
 
nothing like pulling up an old thread to defend you man! (and first lady)

the only thing that is BS is that Hillary and Laura has as many. What I want to know is how they could only pay $35K for salary. Is that person on welfare also?
 
But then the Obama’s are Elitist aren’t they? Just lookin out for the folks. Oh but they need to have a little more Pie.

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funny according to your link that that rumor was started by a democratic PAC that opposed then Senator Obama.

I do hate how people post and send these type of things out without any thought or checking but lets not prentend that only conservatives do it.
 
I didn't say conservatives invented it, just that it's not true. And believe me, I have no visions that only conservatives would resort to such trash - both sides are EQUALLY shameful in their tactics. I can't control what other people are willing to do. But I can control what I do. And my point is, you won't see me posting hysterical lies and propaganda to try and inflame the other side and rally the "too lazy to check any facts" crowd over to my side of the argument. Because all that does is raise tempers and lower the value of any debate. In fact it isn't even debate at that point, it's just a big 'ole mud-slinging waste of time...
 
wish2fish said:
so it not true that Barack Obama is the mastermind of Al-Quedia?
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I thought that was George Bush, but Obama could be.. He’s not a US citizen ya know.:grin:
 
Now maybe you can prove to us how adding 30,000,000 people to Obama Care is going to save the country money. Oh yea I forgot the Government under NoBomba is running so efficient!:smt043:smt043:smt043:smt043
 
Daddubo said:
Now maybe you can prove to us how adding 30,000,000 people to Obama Care is going to save the country money. Oh yea I forgot the Government under NoBomba is running so efficient!:smt043:smt043:smt043:smt043
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Everyone making over $88K ? that's how.
 
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