So you got yourself COVID vaccine. Think you can’t get COVID? Think again.

alnav said:
I think you need to guess again. There are at least three members who have admitted to being Feds. All seem to be on the unvaxxed side, one stating he would take early retirement rather than conform to the upcoming mandate. I haven't seen any evidence of any others unless you mean supporting contractors? Looks like @Blueone and I resemble that; I guess we didn't build our respective businesses? How about military; is that a bad thing? I admit to receiving retired and combat disability pay for that service.
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Re-read my post….slowly
 
tc410 said:
That’s the cool thing about living in the USA - choices. We get to make choices. As with every choice we make throughout our lifetime, some have better consequences than other choices, but folks are free to fall on whatever sword they so strongly believe in.
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Haha!!
 
firecadet613 said:
Look at all the HIGHLY vaxxed countries around the world...covid is still there. Israel is on the 4th booster....still has covid....
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Again, bad example. Israel works against the case you are trying to make. They are stalled at ~63% vaccination rate. That is why they can't get past it. Not sure why everyone wrongly assumes they are highly vaccinated and then mistakenly use it as the golden example of vaccines not working. It's the example for exactly the opposite.

Classic illustration of misinformation being propagated.

Where vaccine rates approach or exceed 80%, there is far less spread. Canada is a good example. Provinces that have fully vaccinated rates in the low 60s, like Alberta (similar to Israel), have issues with hospitals being full. Provinces like Ontario, in the mid-70s with large cities in the 80s, aren't seeing the same problems at this time.

The vaccines are not a silver bullet solution, but it seems pretty obvious they help. Could they introduce other problems? Possibly, but not obviously worse than COVID itself. Bonified research (not the type done by Google warriors armed with a smartphone) points to vaccination as the appropriate mitigation.

I'm not sold on it completely, but I inherently believe the worldwide collective recommending the same course of action of vaccinations are doing so in good faith (although not necessarily with complete confidence), not as part of some evil conspiracy (because that's just kinda crazy).
 
bajturner said:
Again, bad example. Israel works against the case you are trying to make. They are stalled at ~63% vaccination rate. That is why they can't get past it. Not sure why everyone wrongly assumes they are highly vaccinated and then mistakenly use it as the golden example of vaccines not working. It's the example for exactly the opposite.

Classic illustration of misinformation being propagated.

Where vaccine rates approach or exceed 80%, there is far less spread. Canada is a good example. Provinces that have fully vaccinated rates in the low 60s, like Alberta (similar to Israel), have issues with hospitals being full. Provinces like Ontario, in the mid-70s with large cities in the 80s, aren't seeing the same problems at this time.

The vaccines are not a silver bullet solution, but it seems pretty obvious they help. Could they introduce other problems? Possibly, but not obviously worse than COVID itself. Bonified research (not the type done by Google warriors armed with a smartphone) points to vaccination as the appropriate mitigation.

I'm not sold on it completely, but I inherently believe the worldwide collective recommending the same course of action of vaccinations are doing so in good faith (although not necessarily with complete confidence), not as part of some evil conspiracy (because that's just kinda crazy).
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78% of those eligible over age 12, are vaxxed in Israel. Is that not "highly vaxxed"?

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why

India seems to be having good luck with Ivermectin... but there's no money in that...
 
tc410 said:
That’s the cool thing about living in the USA - choices. We get to make choices. As with every choice we make throughout our lifetime, some have better consequences than other choices, but folks are free to fall on whatever sword they so strongly believe in.
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I can’t wait to see your whining when the consequences come down on you and yours.

Show me in the constitution where anyone government or business has the right to force another person to ingest chemicals?
 
MonacoMike said:
I can’t wait to see your whining when the consequences come down on you and yours.

Show me in the constitution where anyone government or business has the right to force another person to ingest chemicals?
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Have you not been paying attention? Neither government nor business is forcing anyone to ingest anything…. Just the opposite - you (we, I) have every right to choose what we ingest (unless it’s an illegal substance). No one is tying anyone down and injecting them with a safe, effective and approved vaccine (if by some sick chance that’s what you’re referring to as “chemicals”).
 
tc410 said:
Have you not been paying attention? Neither government nor business is forcing anyone to ingest anything…. Just the opposite - you (we, I) have every right to choose what we ingest (unless it’s an illegal substance). No one is tying anyone down and injecting them with a safe, effective and approved vaccine (if by some sick chance that’s what you’re referring to as “chemicals”).
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And are you not paying attention. It is not a choice when one is extorted. If you think this is the stopping point you are mistaken the mob will keep coming and coming. We could stop this now but the suckers cannot see what really is transpiring, which is division of the people. There will be nobody to stand up with you when they come for you…
 
MonacoMike said:
And are you not paying attention. It is not a choice when one is extorted. If you think this is the stopping point you are mistaken the mob will keep coming and coming. We could stop this now but the suckers cannot see what really is transpiring, which is division of the people. There will be nobody to stand up with you when they come for you…
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Oooooooh, OK!! LMFAO!! I think I will be just fine, but thank you for your concern!
 
MonacoMike said:
I can’t wait to see your whining when the consequences come down on you and yours.

Show me in the constitution where anyone government or business has the right to force another person to ingest chemicals?
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Notice how the main stream media is not reporting the adverse effects of the “vaccine”.

Why would doctors, immunologists, nurses, in large numbers refuse the pokey?
Could it be they know something the msm isn’t reporting? Could it be sheeple don’t read the white papers on what mRNA really is?

Sheeple who are incapable of thinking independently are going to eventually have to admit they made a mistake. Whether they admit it secretly or publicly. They will find out sooner or later.
 
El Capitan said:
Notice how the main stream media is not reporting the adverse effects of the “vaccine”.

Why would doctors, immunologists, nurses, in large numbers refuse the pokey?
Could it be they know something the msm isn’t reporting? Could it be sheeple don’t read the white papers on what mRNA really is?

Sheeple who are incapable of thinking independently are going to eventually have to admit they made a mistake. Whether they admit it secretly or publicly. They will find out sooner or later.
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So did you get the “pokey” or are you actively applying for a new job? Whether you admit secretly or publicly, they will find out sooner or later ;)
 
You can’t tell me when you were voting for this moron that you didn’t know he is actually this stupid and admits it the next day in a speech…..
Hell his handlers are even incompetent…. What an embarrassment

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Blueone said:
You can’t tell me when you were voting for this moron that you didn’t know he is actually this stupid and admits it the next day in a speech…..
Hell his handlers are even incompetent…. What an embarrassment

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Most of us know how stupid he is. But the article lacks credibility because the author cites in the opening paragraph “the wife of a close friend” and then he goes on to directly quote FJB as saying the “significant other of a close friend”.

One of those situations where the reporter is actually more stupid than FJB?
 
tc410 said:
Most of us know how stupid he is. But the article lacks credibility because the author cites in the opening paragraph “the wife of a close friend” and then he goes on to directly quote FJB as saying the “significant other of a close friend”.

One of those situations where the reporter is actually more stupid than FJB?
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My god man….. the story is Biden’s words in a flippin speech being quoted. Spin it any way you want…. We have an insanely incompetent moron running the country because you voted for him or didn’t but that’s another thread
 
Blueone said:
My god man….. the story is Biden’s words in a flippin speech being quoted. Spin it any way you want…. We have an insanely incompetent moron running the country because you voted for him or didn’t but that’s another thread
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Calm down blue man… I said we know how stupid he is. I didn’t vote for him whether you want to accuse me of or not. The point is that a “journalist” should be educated enough to get the facts straight. The “journalist” is the one who “spun” the story not me. If these articles are going to be effective reporting, they need to be reported by professionals - not hacks.
 
tc410 said:
Calm down blue man… I said we know how stupid he is. I didn’t vote for him whether you want to accuse me of or not. The point is that a “journalist” should be educated enough to get the facts straight. The “journalist” is the one who “spun” the story not me. If these articles are going to be effective reporting, they need to be reported by professionals - not hacks.
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I’m calm…. Good luck finding professionals today especially in the news business….. point was and in Biden’s own words said he pulled strings to help a friend….. if I was in that emerg room I would have lost my shit…. And without a doubt I would be the problem
 
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