TRUMP 2024

Alkas2710 said:
This has been going on for many years now going back with RBG. If you look at recent rulings you will see that the liberal justices are more likely to vote in lock step while moderate conservative justices may dissent. To much data to post but in a nut shell the majority of cases heard in the past just over 50% would have a unanimous decision until the last 10 years or so. Now we are down to the 20% or so in unanimous decisions with the percentage of justices voting on party lines going way up. I could list some headline cases abortion gun rights EPA regulations. Not sure if I explained it right but bottom line is unanimous decisions are going down while party line decisions are going up
Click to expand...
Without data to back that up, no freaking way. I spent way too many hours reading lengthy dissents in my younger years.
 
TimW said:
Yawn.
Click to expand...
No answer, not a surprise.
Flyer5 said:
Sounds like what the MSM says. But it is not true. Lower paid people saw nice increases in their pay. People that were big in real estate paid more because of the cap on the write off for RE taxes. There are many more examples you are wrong. Corporations received a tax cut. But did you ever look at who the corporations are made up from. Majority are mom and pop. It was huge to these. The Trump tax write off was a win for the American people.
Click to expand...
I can't find much info that supports the Trump tax cuts helped wage earners. There is a ways and means site that said wages increased faster with the tax cuts than during Obama's 2nd term and it was something like, 3% increase instead of a 2% increase. There are a boatload of sites that make a case for not helping at all. I don't have enough background to know if their points are valid or not.

At the time, the tax cuts were universally slammed as poorly timed. Good governing would dictate a tax increase when the economy is running like a well oiled machine. The same as you or I, would increase savings as our income increased.

I forgot about the cap for mortgage deductions. That was a deliberate slap in the face to NY and CA homeowners. At the time, CA and NYC homeowners were the 2 most likely places to have million dollar mortgages.

The median house price has been pretty much straight up since the tax cuts. As richer people could buy more and bigger houses, this led to surging prices all the way down to first time homeowners.
 
M & L said:
No answer, not a surprise.

I can't find much info that supports the Trump tax cuts helped wage earners. There is a ways and means site that said wages increased faster with the tax cuts than during Obama's 2nd term and it was something like, 3% increase instead of a 2% increase. There are a boatload of sites that make a case for not helping at all. I don't have enough background to know if their points are valid or not.

At the time, the tax cuts were universally slammed as poorly timed. Good governing would dictate a tax increase when the economy is running like a well oiled machine. The same as you or I, would increase savings as our income increased.

I forgot about the cap for mortgage deductions. That was a deliberate slap in the face to NY and CA homeowners. At the time, CA and NYC homeowners were the 2 most likely places to have million dollar mortgages.

The median house price has been pretty much straight up since the tax cuts. As richer people could buy more and bigger houses, this led to surging prices all the way down to first time homeowners.
Click to expand...
Actually I have seen several articles that dispute that "richer people" bought "more and bigger houses". The real driver has been mid-level homes in the 2,000-3,500 sq. ft. range. And the top end of the market has been fairly stable.
 
M & L said:
No answer, not a surprise.

I can't find much info that supports the Trump tax cuts helped wage earners. There is a ways and means site that said wages increased faster with the tax cuts than during Obama's 2nd term and it was something like, 3% increase instead of a 2% increase. There are a boatload of sites that make a case for not helping at all. I don't have enough background to know if their points are valid or not.

At the time, the tax cuts were universally slammed as poorly timed. Good governing would dictate a tax increase when the economy is running like a well oiled machine. The same as you or I, would increase savings as our income increased.

I forgot about the cap for mortgage deductions. That was a deliberate slap in the face to NY and CA homeowners. At the time, CA and NYC homeowners were the 2 most likely places to have million dollar mortgages.

The median house price has been pretty much straight up since the tax cuts. As richer people could buy more and bigger houses, this led to surging prices all the way down to first time homeowners.
Click to expand...
If you're not a bot, please take some time and go learn something.

Good governing would never dictate a tax increase. Let the people keep, spend and invest their own money and thereby grow the economy. A growing economy increases tax revenues.

Second, the cap on mortgage deductions is to institute a level of fairness into the system. Why should someone who has a mortgage get a tax break? And someone who has a bigger mortgage get a bigger tax break? A renter gets jack squat. Lower rates and remove the mortgage interest deduction altogether.
 
TimW said:
As valid as the (non)“answers” you copy/paste from chatbot.
Click to expand...
Tim, I've never knowingly used a chatbot or its output. I'm old and apparently that makes me seem like a chatbot.

OllieC is the only person that I've noticed using AI. The parrot he used to post quite often was an obvious AI image.

Again no answers.
 
Golfman25 said:
If you're not a bot, please take some time and go learn something.

Good governing would never dictate a tax increase. Let the people keep, spend and invest their own money and thereby grow the economy. A growing economy increases tax revenues.

Second, the cap on mortgage deductions is to institute a level of fairness into the system. Why should someone who has a mortgage get a tax break? And someone who has a bigger mortgage get a bigger tax break? A renter gets jack squat. Lower rates and remove the mortgage interest deduction altogether.
Click to expand...
Better yet, go to a flat tax and remove all deductions. We should be able to file our taxes on a post card.
 
Golfman25 said:
Without data to back that up, no freaking way. I spent way too many hours reading lengthy dissents in my younger years.
Click to expand...
There is data to back that up do some research its a bit time consuming so Im not researching it again but if you look you will find it..
 
Golfman25 said:
If you're not a bot, please take some time and go learn something.

Good governing would never dictate a tax increase. Let the people keep, spend and invest their own money and thereby grow the economy. A growing economy increases tax revenues.

Second, the cap on mortgage deductions is to institute a level of fairness into the system. Why should someone who has a mortgage get a tax break? And someone who has a bigger mortgage get a bigger tax break? A renter gets jack squat. Lower rates and remove the mortgage interest deduction altogether.
Click to expand...
We've got a philosophical disagreement. Government has duties to perform and they need money. Taxes are how they accumulate the money. Currently the US spends more than it takes in. Neither the left nor the right is willing to cut the spending, so we devalue the money by not taking care of our income.

When the cap on real estate was discussed and implemented, I only remember the Administration rubbing the liberal states noses. Perhaps, I was wrong. Old and don't remember everything.

I agree with getting rid of mortgage deductions, would vote for it.
 
M & L said:
No answer, not a surprise.

I can't find much info that supports the Trump tax cuts helped wage earners. There is a ways and means site that said wages increased faster with the tax cuts than during Obama's 2nd term and it was something like, 3% increase instead of a 2% increase. There are a boatload of sites that make a case for not helping at all. I don't have enough background to know if their points are valid or not.

At the time, the tax cuts were universally slammed as poorly timed. Good governing would dictate a tax increase when the economy is running like a well oiled machine. The same as you or I, would increase savings as our income increased.

I forgot about the cap for mortgage deductions. That was a deliberate slap in the face to NY and CA homeowners. At the time, CA and NYC homeowners were the 2 most likely places to have million dollar mortgages.

The median house price has been pretty much straight up since the tax cuts. As richer people could buy more and bigger houses, this led to surging prices all the way down to first time homeowners.
Click to expand...
You seriously don't understand people taking more home in their paycheck for the majority was a positive. I don't need a study to tell me that it changed peoples lives, for the better.
 
Golfman25 said:
This article seems to indicate otherwise
abcnews.go.com

Supreme Court defies critics with wave of unanimous decisions

The nine justices have charted a surprising course down the middle in 2021, handing down more unanimous opinions than any time in at least the last seven years.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
Click to expand...
You sir are correct I read a2021 article
The far left insists the Court is sharply divided along political lines. If that is true, we should expect to see those fissures represented in the Court’s decisions. Yet we find the opposite. This term, 48% of the Court’s decisions were unanimous. That is a significant increase from the 29% of decisions that were unanimous during the 2021 term.
 
highslice said:
There's a difference between commenting and "bitching". When did I ask for the govt. to help me? That is your area of expertise, sucking on the tax payer and hoping the government will fund your pension. I just want them to quit following policy that actively fucks the majority of the AMERICAN population.
Click to expand...
The majority voted for Biden not Trump.
 
M & L said:
No answer, not a surprise.

I can't find much info that supports the Trump tax cuts helped wage earners. There is a ways and means site that said wages increased faster with the tax cuts than during Obama's 2nd term and it was something like, 3% increase instead of a 2% increase. There are a boatload of sites that make a case for not helping at all. I don't have enough background to know if their points are valid or not.

At the time, the tax cuts were universally slammed as poorly timed. Good governing would dictate a tax increase when the economy is running like a well oiled machine. The same as you or I, would increase savings as our income increased.

I forgot about the cap for mortgage deductions. That was a deliberate slap in the face to NY and CA homeowners. At the time, CA and NYC homeowners were the 2 most likely places to have million dollar mortgages.

The median house price has been pretty much straight up since the tax cuts. As richer people could buy more and bigger houses, this led to surging prices all the way down to first time homeowners.
Click to expand...
I don't think you do much looking, maybe you just don't want to say TCJA benefited anyone or maybe you just don't understand what you read.;)

Why do you call limiting the mortgage interest deduction a 'slap in the face'. Isn't that what Dems want?.... to make wealthy folks 'pay their fair share'.
 
M & L said:
We've got a philosophical disagreement. Government has duties to perform and they need money. Taxes are how they accumulate the money. Currently the US spends more than it takes in. Neither the left nor the right is willing to cut the spending, so we devalue the money by not taking care of our income.

When the cap on real estate was discussed and implemented, I only remember the Administration rubbing the liberal states noses. Perhaps, I was wrong. Old and don't remember everything.

I agree with getting rid of mortgage deductions, would vote for it.
Click to expand...
Why do you agree? Why would you vote to get rid of it? Explain...who does it hurt?
 
I don't like Mondays should be Trump's new song.
Courts ruled the grab them by the pussy tape can be used in his fraud trial.
Stormy can testify in the fraud trial.
Cohen can testify too.
And to top it off the Supreme Court won't hear Navarros appeal so he's off to jail.

I forgot Trump can't post the bond or come up with the cash he said he had when the court handed down it's decision in another fraud case.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
113,301
Messages
1,430,290
Members
61,164
Latest member
MrElie
Back
Top