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Discussion in 'Holding Tank' started by aerobat77, Jun 20, 2019.
Awesome. Our husbands, wives, sons and daughters can come home then. Thanks.
that might be the best what you can do .
ok lets go back to boating gents ;-)
Believe it when I see it
France will lead the way only to bail out as usual leaving the rest of the coalition to carry out the mission and pay for it!
well , if european leaders also chicken out then we can finally say hello to a nuclear tipped iran dictating the rules now and in future . i think france is aware of this and iran is aware of this.
I realize things are tenuous with Iran now, but many Americans were not happy with this US/European black mail deal made with Iran. Also, what makes you believe Iran was honoring their part of this blackmail deal? Now Iran is telling the European members of the deal, they must make up for the US pulling out of the deal, or they will build nuclear weapons. If Europe would take a hard line with Iran like the US, has done, we have a chance of having the upper hand. I am not happy about allowing the Iranian authoritarian government to hurt their own people, due to no money, but it is better than the US dropping bombs on innocent Iranians. Why is Europe allowing Iran to black mail them? “Give us money, or we build nuclear weapons”. If Europe would support our position, things would happen a lot quicker. But, as long as it is only us financially cutting off Iran, the less chance we will have at getting this little evil empire under control, and they need to be controlled! Message to Iran: Play nice, and we will do business with you. Build nuclear weapons and you are dead to me. And, don’t you think for one second, we will allow you to complete your evil mission! Signed, USA
Didn't Germany sell Iran the centrifuges that they use?
Didn't Germany sell Iran the Siemens control systems to manage uranium enrichment?
The inconvenient truth: the only reason the EU stays in the deal with Iran is to make money from them. What they continue to overlook is that Iran and its earlier versions make Somalian pirates look honest. Check the history books.....Thomas Jefferson had to send the first version of the US Navy to the region so that ships carrying cargo to the US had protection.
nice post dani lu !
following the tensions i think iran , especially the 'hardliners' and IRGC only understand the speech of power .
your current president did the opposite - he has shown the speech of bluffing . it makes no sense to threat only to back off . the hardliners in iran understood and got more influence and they behave in a very bold way knowing the tweets from overseas are only words.
europe will and would support USA in any way but i appears they do not support the current president strategy of creating a mess to only back off .
the nuclear deal was not perfect but it was better than nothing - compare it to now , compare the results .
no need to bomb iranian civilians , just declare any iranian warship outside iranian waters as a threat and blow it off the water . maybe loose some missiles on iranian enrichment sides . this would calm off the hardliners i guess.
i think the major problem is europe is afraid to light the fire in middle east not knowing what idea your president has next day .
that said i think american and european people share a deep friendship regardless of current goverments .
Why don’t you go bitch and complain about Merkel and her cohorts? She’s made a mess out of Germany and is a laughing stock. And how about her predecessor who’s making billion dollar deals with the Russians for energy?
You’ve got problems of your own, how about you cleaning up the mess in your country before coming here and trashing our President?
Like I said before, there’s a reason Germany starts wars and loses them.
because that has little to do with iran . feel free and open a topic about this and i give you a point - many in germany are not happy with merkels immigration decisions .
russian gas has also little in common with iran .
if you reply like this on this theme you are pretty short sighted .
that said you agree with me but point out other mistakes of other countries as an argue ?
Aerobatt77, don't listen to a damn thing CaptRonn has to say, he's an idiot...…..
You're a Russian troll ain't ya.
Yup thinking the same thing....This boy has been babbling way too long
i,m sure not the majority here but at least some of you are obviously just to retarded to conduct a normal communication - amazing too see it.
other posters here thankfully are able to share a normal discussion even when opinions might be different . thanks to the normal guys and my condolences to the few ones who are obviously lacking any horizon.
the russian troll was just too funny to make any comment on it .
It's possible to have a normal conversation on any topic. What you have chosen to do is constantly bash our President while pretending you want to discuss Iran. You're playing games here, and you don't like being called out on it.
If you want to have an honest discourse on a topic, stop playing silly games.
i,m not bash any president i just expressed my opinion that i fail to see the strategy and goal behind some decisions and wanted to hear your all opinion .
i know you will not see the difference and i have your personal opinion . thank you
And you have been given that, repeatedly. Yet you still think you're being clever by slipping in your bashing comments. Your game is obvious.