Garmin Grid Remote - Helm seat mod

[ttmott]

Are your 86's going to the GMS10 independently or are they daisy chained together? Only one needs to go to the GMS10. Or plug the 7808 into one of the 2nd ports on the 86's. Although that's not optimal unless all display's are turned on at the same time.

But, consider the failure mode. You wouldn't want to fail one MFD and not be able to use the other because of Ethernet cable routing. I only have two displays and couldn't operate the boat reasonably without at least one. I'd have to break out the Sextant and Chronometer - now we're in real trouble....

 

[Skybolt]

But, consider the failure mode. You wouldn't want to fail one MFD and not be able to use the other because of Ethernet cable routing. I only have two displays and couldn't operate the boat reasonably without at least one. I'd have to break out the Sextant and Chronometer - now we're in real trouble....

I agree, and why I said not optimal. But if you have three MFD's like Al and I do, that may not be an issue. I think if things go wrong, the GSM10 will be part of the wrong anyway.

I have two 1243's and one is connected to the the other then to the GSM10. The 7608 is also directly to the GSM10. That way which ever group is on first, that starts the radar and sounder going.

But your point is valid, especially where you boat. I am not sure I would chance that either if I were you. And a 2nd GSM10 might be in order anyway as a back up.

 

[ttmott]

I agree, and why I said not optimal. But if you have three MFD's like Al and I do, that may not be an issue. I think if things go wrong, the GSM10 will be part of the wrong anyway.

I have two 1243's and one is connected to the the other then to the GSM10. The 7608 is also directly to the GSM10. That way which ever group is on first, that starts the radar and sounder going.

But your point is valid, especially where you boat. I am not sure I would chance that either if I were you. And a 2nd GSM10 might be in order anyway as a back up.

GMS10 completely consumed - What else could be added unless another MFD?

• Radar
• 8616xsv
• 8616
• Card Reader
• Fusion Audio

 

[alnav]

GMS10 completely consumed - What else could be added unless another MFD?

• Radar
• 8616xsv
• 8616
• Card Reader
• Fusion Audio

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I have a FLIR and weather receiver also on mine. I would be embarrassed to show a picture of the inside of my dash compared to your installation.

 

[Skybolt]

GMS10 completely consumed - What else could be added unless another MFD?

• Radar
• 8616xsv
• 8616
• Card Reader
• Fusion Audio

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I have the same except for the card reader, as I have the 7608 which acts as that.

But that is what we were referring to, a third MFD. Al has two 8612's and a 7608 along with the rest of the stuff including a FLIR. So No space left and why I suggested daisy chaining the two main displays, or the third to one of the main's.

The 7608 has two GMN ports where as the 943 only has one. And there in lies the problem.

 

[b_arrington]

GMS10 completely consumed - What else could be added unless another MFD?

• Radar
• 8616xsv
• 8616
• Card Reader
• Fusion Audio

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What is the gold colored thing on the angle bracket, to the left of the AIS?

 

[ttmott]

What is the gold colored thing on the angle bracket, to the left of the AIS?

That is a Garmin POE isolator.
I had my Lorex camera system routed through it but couldn't ever get things to work together. Now I have the Fusion Audio routed through it because I didn't know if the Fusion was POE. The Garmin equipment can be damaged with POE.

 

[Irie308]

So the good news is...Yes, Garmin did reduce the size of the engage/cancel message for my 8616. The bad news is the new software is not supported on my 1222 plus model. I can live with that for now but it seems Garmin is no longer releasing software for my 1222 model. Its still stuck on software v28.30....side note, anyone looking for a lightly used 1222 plus...

 

[alnav]

Verified the new alert message covered Autopilot and snapped a picture:

 

[rlynch03]

GMS10 completely consumed - What else could be added unless another MFD?

• Radar
• 8616xsv
• 8616
• Card Reader
• Fusion Audio

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Sorry but regarding the GMS10. Is the main or only benefit added LAN Ports?

 

[sea hare]

As far as the battery drain if you dont turn off the batteries, just wire your NMEA2000 backbone to a switch. I believe if the backbone is tied directly to the battery all devices powered via NMEA2000 will stay on all the time.

 

[alnav]

Sorry but regarding the GMS10. Is the main or only benefit added LAN Ports?

GMS10's primary function is to act as a network switch to enable more connections to the Garmin Network. It will also pass control signals to connected sensors and turn them on/off when a connected chart plotter is turned on/off.

 

[Skybolt]

Sorry but regarding the GMS10. Is the main or only benefit added LAN Ports?

In addition to what Al @alnav said, it also allows multiple MFD's to share things like the radar and not have to turn on the "radar" to use it. I have three MFD's and anyone of them can be used for the radar while the others remain off.

Why would want to do that? When at anchor I use the smaller MFD for this and other things and I don't need to have the two main units on. There on two different power switches so it makes it easy.

 

[Sebastian]

If you connect it to your NMEA 2000 system more features unlock (...)

@ttmott What additional features are these? I can't find anything in the instructions. Apart from the power supply and greater reliability with a wired connection, the functions seem to be identical. Or am I mistaken?

 

[rlynch03]

@ttmott What additional features are these? I can't find anything in the instructions. Apart from the power supply and greater reliability with a wired connection, the functions seem to be identical. Or am I mistaken?

I have my Grid connected via N2K. This allows for full control of the AutoPilot. Not sure if that feature is available over the wireless connection.?.

 

[Sebastian]

I have my Grid connected via N2K. This allows for full control of the AutoPilot. Not sure if that feature is available over the wireless connection.?.

Thank you, you're right: "If the GRID 20 device (...) is running on battery power only, you will not be able to control a connected autopilot with the GRID 20 device." (source).

For me this is not a problem, because I use the Volvo Penta joystick with autopilot and wouldn't use the Grid 20 for this.

Are there any other already known limitations in the comparison between N2K and the ANT connection?

 

[techmitch]

Thank you, you're right: "If the GRID 20 device (...) is running on battery power only, you will not be able to control a connected autopilot with the GRID 20 device." (source).

For me this is not a problem, because I use the Volvo Penta joystick with autopilot and wouldn't use the Grid 20 for this.

Are there any other already known limitations in the comparison between N2K and the ANT connection?

Interesting boat. Welcome to CSR.

 

[Sebastian]

Interesting boat. Welcome to CSR.

Thank you! For the many inland waters in Germany it's great and practical, especially because it doesn't need fuel and the solar system and battery take care of everything – but the boat is not appropriate for coastal waters.

 

[quality time]

I see there is a GRID and a GRID 20 remote. Does anyone know what the difference is between the two?

 

[alnav]

I see there is a GRID and a GRID 20 remote. Does anyone know what the difference is between the two?

The GRID was the first remote offered. It has to be hard-wired both to power and to the Garmin Network. The GRID 20 is cheaper and can be hard-wired to NMEA 2000 which provides power as well. Or, it can be battery powered and operate wirelessly. I think they are functionally the same although the 20 seems to have more buttons, would have to look function by function to see any differences.