Shower Drain

gerrpicc

gerrpicc

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Apr 10, 2012
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Lake Erie / Lake St. Clair
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97 370 EC
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T 7.4L MPI
97 SR 370 EC
I have two shower drains. I'm getting water from the shower in the bilge compartment where it doesn't belong. I've eliminated all possible sources of water and isolated the leak to the drains. The sump box does not leak and it's not rain water. So it's either the drain(s) or drain hose (which is impossible to access).Is it possible to remove the SS drain covers to re-bed? There is absolutely no access below the shower so it has to be all done from above. Any help is greatly appreciated. See pics
Thanks
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gerrpicc said:
97 SR 370 EC
I have two shower drains. I'm getting water from the shower in the bilge compartment where it doesn't belong. I've eliminated all possible sources of water and isolated the leak to the drains. The sump box does not leak and it's not rain water. So it's either the drain(s) or drain hose (which is impossible to access).Is it possible to remove the SS drain covers to re-bed? There is absolutely no access below the shower so it has to be all done from above. Any help is greatly appreciated. See pics
Thanks
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Do you have or can you get a pic of just outside the shower door near the floor?
 
Every time I had a similar problem with my 410DA, it was always the drain from the AC pan. Overflowing as drain was clogged.
 
I'm sure you verified it, but just in case, seeing as many things can send water into that compartment, did you see soap in the water? Or better yet, did you directly pour some colored liquid down the drain (like green or yellow soap like Pine Sol, or even anti-freeze) to be sure it's the drain and not the A/C pan leak trailing down the outside of the hose or something?

I had a hot water tank fitting blow off on my 380 and that's where the water went ..... although in my case it came in unholy torrents and nearly sunk the boat at the dock, point is ...it still migrated to the shower sump bilge.
 
So you're SURE it's the shower drains? Just asking because I've traced these kind of leaks before and thought it was one thing when it turned out to be something else.

I ask because I've had two problems with the box recently, and I thought it was X but it turned out to be Y.

Unless you dump water down the shower drain(s) and see it outside the box immediately afterwards like ITB says, assume it could be something else.
 
techmitch said:
Do you have or can you get a pic of just outside the shower door near the floor?
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Brett H said:
Every time I had a similar problem with my 410DA, it was always the drain from the AC pan. Overflowing as drain was clogged.
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Thanks for the reply Brett. Checked the AC pan. There is no water around the outside of the pan. The pan drains into the shower sump as designed.
 
gerrpicc said:
Thanks for the reply Brett. Checked the AC pan. There is no water around the outside of the pan. The pan drains into the shower sump as designed.
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The piece of trim appears to be removable. However, I can slide my hand behind it and can feel that the shower stall is all the way to the floor (if that's where you were going with this)
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Phil S said:
So you're SURE it's the shower drains? Just asking because I've traced these kind of leaks before and thought it was one thing when it turned out to be something else.

I ask because I've had two problems with the box recently, and I thought it was X but it turned out to be Y.

Unless you dump water down the shower drain(s) and see it outside the box immediately afterwards like ITB says, assume it could be something else.
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I dried up the bilge area and let it sit for a few days. It remained dry even after a heavy rainstorm. The AC runs all the time but again it drains into the shower sump and it's not overflowing. I then poured water into one of the drains and the water showed up maybe an hour later. I can't even see how it gets into the bilge. So I'm thinking either the drains need re-sealing or there is a small leak in the drain hose (which is mostly inaccessible of course)
 
gerrpicc said:
The piece of trim appears to be removable. However, I can slide my hand behind it and can feel that the shower stall is all the way to the floor (if that's where you were going with this)
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Sorry, no. I was saying my Salon AC drip pan would get full of condensate (due to clogged drain tube), then it would overflow. The designed path for an overflow was directly into the bilge area where the sump was also located.
 
Island Time Buffalo said:
I'm sure you verified it, but just in case, seeing as many things can send water into that compartment, did you see soap in the water? Or better yet, did you directly pour some colored liquid down the drain (like green or yellow soap like Pine Sol, or even anti-freeze) to be sure it's the drain and not the A/C pan leak trailing down the outside of the hose or something?

I had a hot water tank fitting blow off on my 380 and that's where the water went ..... although in my case it came in unholy torrents and nearly sunk the boat at the dock, point is ...it still migrated to the shower sump bilge.
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Didn't pour coloured water but it is definitely soapy shower water. I dried up the bilge area and let it sit for a few days. It remained dry even after a heavy rainstorm. The AC runs all the time but again it drains into the shower sump and it's not overflowing. I then poured water into one of the drains and the water showed up maybe an hour later. I can't even see how it gets into the bilge. So I'm thinking either the drains need re-sealing or there is a small leak in the drain hose (which is mostly inaccessible of course)
 
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You might try contacting SR to find out how it is built. They used to be pretty good at sharing info including their production drawings. Unfortunately, this one of the ways SR cuts corners by building down to a price instead of up to a standard. More custom boats do not use compression fittings for drains caps. The preferred approach is a female fitting in the floor with a shower drain cap that screws into floor fitting. This way you can remove the cap, snake out the pipe to the sump and clean things out. Good luck with it.
 
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Even though you said you could feel around there, you should probably pull that carpeted panel at the bottom anyhow for starters to be sure as you may end up pulling it to access under that floor area buy pulling the carpet on the floor and cutting a hole.
 
gerrpicc said:
97 SR 370 EC
I have two shower drains. I'm getting water from the shower in the bilge compartment where it doesn't belong. I've eliminated all possible sources of water and isolated the leak to the drains. The sump box does not leak and it's not rain water. So it's either the drain(s) or drain hose (which is impossible to access).Is it possible to remove the SS drain covers to re-bed? There is absolutely no access below the shower so it has to be all done from above. Any help is greatly appreciated. See pics
Than
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Those drains are sealed units, you have to pop out the whole assembly
 
techmitch said:
Even though you said you could feel around there, you should probably pull that carpeted panel at the bottom anyhow for starters to be sure as you may end up pulling it to access under that floor area buy pulling the carpet on the floor and cutting a hole.
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Can you tell me how that carpeted panel is attached, please? Screws within the carpet? Snaps? Silicon? Thanks, Dave
 
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