Ubiquity Bullet M2 vs PepLink Max BR1 Mini. Wan WiFi

Drag the Starlink connection out of being disabled, to P1 or P2.
 
That fixed it…. Thank you.

Now explain me something- I have the Starlink connected to the Peplink and then the Linksys 4500 connected to the Peplink LAN. When I connect to the Linksys via Wi-Fi and run a speed test I get 26mps, if I connect to the Starlink via Wi-Fi and run the test I get 65mps. Why am I losing so much?
 
ocgrant said:
That fixed it…. Thank you.

Now explain me something- I have the Starlink connected to the Peplink and then the Linksys 4500 connected to the Peplink LAN. When I connect to the Linksys via Wi-Fi and run a speed test I get 26mps, if I connect to the Starlink via Wi-Fi and run the test I get 65mps. Why am I losing so much?
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What is acting as your router in the system, Starlink, Peplink or the Linksys? All are capable, but only need one acting as the router. Are you using the Linksys as a pure switch?

I'm thinking the Peplink is your router, the SL is providing internet as a WAN connection (priority dependant), and the Linksys should be used only as a switch to provide additional wired LAN capabilities?
 
dtfeld said:
What is acting as your router in the system, Starlink, Peplink or the Linksys? All are capable, but only need one acting as the router. Are you using the Linksys as a pure switch?

I'm thinking the Peplink is your router, the SL is providing internet as a WAN connection (priority dependant), and the Linksys should be used only as a switch to provide additional wired LAN capabilities?
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Well… When I built this without Starlink the Linksys was the WAP and switch for all hardwired devices Peplink was just used as the router. So it is the same now as I basically copied what @SKybolt had set up just adding the Starlink to the WAN port on the Starlink
 
ocgrant said:
That fixed it…. Thank you.

Now explain me something- I have the Starlink connected to the Peplink and then the Linksys 4500 connected to the Peplink LAN. When I connect to the Linksys via Wi-Fi and run a speed test I get 26mps, if I connect to the Starlink via Wi-Fi and run the test I get 65mps. Why am I losing so much?
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You may need to change settings in the PL SL wan connection. It for some reason, has slow speeds as a default. I have/had that setup. I changed routers for another reason, but the 4500 works excellent. The SS below is the details of the SL connection. Match those and you should have better speed.

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Also bypass the SL router all together. In the SL app there is an option to do that. In doing that you will pick up speed as well. But you must reboot everything after you do that.
 
dtfeld said:
... I'm thinking the Peplink is your router, the SL is providing internet as a WAN connection (priority dependant), and the Linksys should be used only as a switch to provide additional wired LAN capabilities?
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No the Linksys is the router and provides all WiFi AP as well. I had a lot of issues getting everything to connect to the PL as the main AP and the Linksys fixed that. Grant just copied my setup at the time.
 
SKybolt said:
No the Linksys is the router and provides all WiFi AP as well. I had a lot of issues getting everything to connect to the PL as the main AP and the Linksys fixed that. Grant just copied my setup at the time.
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Thank you sir I will make those changes next and see how it acts.
 
SKybolt said:
No the Linksys is the router and provides all WiFi AP as well. I had a lot of issues getting everything to connect to the PL as the main AP and the Linksys fixed that. Grant just copied my setup at the time.
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I was thinking that Grant might be double routed. I am surprised that both of you are having issues getting Peplink working as the AP. Must be something with the MAX Mini ?

I have had both Peplink MAX devices (Mk2 and now Pro 5G) as my central hub. It’s the WAN manager, router and AP all in one and it just works. I have a couple Trendnet Industrial 5/8 port switches because they can be hardwired into the 12V system on the boat.

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dtfeld said:
I was thinking that Grant might be double routed. I am surprised that both of you are having issues getting Peplink working as the AP. Must be something with the MAX Mini ?

I have had both Peplink MAX devices (Mk2 and now Pro 5G) as my central hub. It’s the WAN manager, router and AP all in one and it just works. I have a couple Trendnet Industrial 5/8 port switches because they can be hardwired into the 12V system on the boat.

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Did you ever get your thermostat working on the wifi? But that issue you were have with that is what I was experiencing so I just found it easier to have the wifi AP in the cabin for the streaming devices.
 
Thermostat works perfectly as long as I’m on the boat, but no remote access (yet).
 
dtfeld said:
I was thinking that Grant might be double routed. I am surprised that both of you are having issues getting Peplink working as the AP. Must be something with the MAX Mini ?

I have had both Peplink MAX devices (Mk2 and now Pro 5G) as my central hub. It’s the WAN manager, router and AP all in one and it just works. I have a couple Trendnet Industrial 5/8 port switches because they can be hardwired into the 12V system on the boat.

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Yea my issue is the Peplink is mounted in the cockpit area and signal inside the boat is not that good. Not sure if that is because the wifi antenna is mounted on top of the cockpit or what. With the Linksys I seem to get better coverage but I agree it is another component. The wifi antenna I have on the Peplink is a Shakespeare Octopus. I wonder of one of the new Peplink tall antennas would increase the coverage inside my cabin and i could eliminate the Linksys and just add a switch for my hardwired stuff? Thoughts?
 
ocgrant said:
Yea my issue is the Peplink is mounted in the cockpit area and signal inside the boat is not that good. Not sure if that is because the wifi antenna is mounted on top of the cockpit or what. With the Linksys I seem to get better coverage but I agree it is another component. The wifi antenna I have on the Peplink is a Shakespeare Octopus. I wonder of one of the new Peplink tall antennas would increase the coverage inside my cabin and i could eliminate the Linksys and just add a switch for my hardwired stuff? Thoughts?
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I have a TP-Link 4' antenna on the port side of the boat. While it is perfect for picking up the wifi AP's it has signal issues in the cabin as well.

In your case of having the antenna on the roof, that is a bit tougher to get a good signal from. Antenna's radiate from the sides horizontally with very little if any vertical signal. If you upgraded to the 5G, you could have an antenna in the cabin and then you would have better coverage.

But you might have better luck with the Pepwave 42g. That has some vertical characteristics.

But yes, you can turn on the AP in the PL and add a hardwired switch for the rest of what needs that.

EDIT: You could also add a wifi access point for the streaming device and ditch the Linksys as well. Te access point would give you same network connectivity and seamlessly give you direct access to the PL.
 
I have the PL mounted in the arch, and the 42G mounted where the old TV antenna was on top of the arch (shortest anteena leads possible). I've always had good WiFi thoughout the boat. I've been pretty happy with the 42G, but I am solely using cellular data

This video discusses the issues you are having and how to solve by adding a secondary Peplink AP. Its discussing RV's but it will translate to boat as well. You will have to look at the PL specs' to see if it supports external AP's (some do some dont). But basically, you are adding a secondary physical access point to get better wifi coverage.

 
dtfeld said:
... You will have to look at the PL specs' to see if it supports external AP's (some do some dont). But basically, you are adding a secondary physical access point to get better wifi coverage
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Any AP setup correctly (pass through) will work just fine. The PL will see the AP itself as a client and then the clients connecting to the external AP will either be managed through the AP or get DHCP addresses from the PL directly. No such thing as needing to be supported, if the access point is setup correctly in pass through mode.
 
dtfeld said:
I have the PL mounted in the arch, and the 42G mounted where the old TV antenna was on top of the arch (shortest anteena leads possible). I've always had good WiFi thoughout the boat. I've been pretty happy with the 42G, but I am solely using cellular data

This video discusses the issues you are having and how to solve by adding a secondary Peplink AP. Its discussing RV's but it will translate to boat as well. You will have to look at the PL specs' to see if it supports external AP's (some do some dont). But basically, you are adding a secondary physical access point to get better wifi coverage.

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Thats a good video for non experts like myself. So does by Max BR1 mini LTE support those Peplink Mini AP's then? If that is the case I may just get one of those to install in the cabin and a 12v POE switch and eliminate the Linksys?
 
ocgrant said:
Will that auto configure once plugged into the peplink or i need to configure it first?
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All access points need to be configured or you won't be able to connect to it. But if you wanted to take all of the defaults, I guess you could. What did you do with the Linksys, you had to configure that no?

But there is nothing wrong with keeping the Linksys and keep using things the way they are.
 
SKybolt said:
All access points need to be configured or you won't be able to connect to it. But if you wanted to take all of the defaults, I guess you could. What did you do with the Linksys, you had to configure that no?

But there is nothing wrong with keeping the Linksys and keep using things the way they are.
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You are right, I am just going to stay with the Linksys as it does everything I need it to do. Should I shut of the Peplink AP like the Starlink?
 
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