TimW
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You mean what the .gov calls standard capacity when THEY order them?It's all about the high capacity magazines
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You mean what the .gov calls standard capacity when THEY order them?It's all about the high capacity magazines
NY allows it. The law states “it is unlawful to hunt big game with a firearm using rim fire ammunition”I do not believe so. In Indiana .243 is the minimum. Just pointing out it is not some mammoth gun like so many believe. .223 is just slightly bigger than the .22 rifle though longer.
I don't think that's a "left thing". HIPPA is there for a good reason. You have a right to privacy. Like I mentioned before, where is the line and who gets to draw it?So the left doesn't want these people getting theses guns (and nobody wants them having these guns) but the left also wants to keep all this information private
Just to clarify, I'm not for banning 'assault rifles'. I'm suggesting that any argument/defense based on 'they're not very lethal' or 'not as lethal as' is a mistake. The people being killed by them in the common caliber .223 is proof of that.I do not believe so. In Indiana .243 is the minimum. Just pointing out it is not some mammoth gun like so many believe. .223 is just slightly bigger than the .22 rifle though longer.
On the surface your comments seem very rational. I think they are a gross over simplification for lessening the problem. I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but again, who is going to be put in charge of deciding how to compel people to report on others?If we broke assailants into two classes; one being a willful criminal and two a mentally deranged person. Someone here said there is no difference; I would disagree.
The willful criminal is easy - track them and monitor them. Of course there will be escapes nothing can be 100%
For the minor that has mental issues and behavioral questionability the legal guardian must be held responsible and culpable. I think the legal guardian must share the ramifications of the law if they do not raise awareness of a potential issue to the appropriate authorities. This would greatly reduce situations by minors.
For adults with mental issues and questionable behavior the doctors, hospitals, and welfare centers need to share culpability if they do not elevate to the appropriate authorities. This is not a HIPPA violation. The challenge here is to establish guidelines for reportability.
It seems to me that everyone gets a pass except for the person committing the crime; this needs to change and will greatly curtail these horrible acts.
I am working the long term deterrent not reaction to an event. Creating an effective deterrent takes a lot of time and unfortunately continued situations until the effects of the deterrent are popular. But, regardless we must start with something rational; elimination of legally possessed firearms isn't the path. I would rather loose a bit of privacy ensuring my doctor reports per a process if I show signs that can be, call it, critical than having someone determine what I am allowed to personally own.On the surface your comments seem very rational. I think they are a gross over simplification for lessening the problem. I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but again, who is going to be put in charge of deciding how to compel people to report on others?
For what it's worth, I think parents of a lot of these turds that have committed the murders need to be held liable if it's been found they could have prevented something from happening. How do you charge someone with being a POS parent though? Columbine, Sandy Hook. Obviously Adam Lanza's mother was already "tried and convicted"...
Long term versus knee jerk is wise thinking. I agree that something has to be done, but giving up any of my freedoms isn't something I'm willing to do. I don't have a good answer unfortunately. I believe that any new laws compelling people, doctor's included, to report will be just another law stripping us of more privacy and won't actually help. If I'm not mistaken, there are already laws compelling doctor's to report.I am working the long term deterrent not reaction to an event. Creating an effective deterrent takes a lot of time and unfortunately continued situations until the effects of the deterrent are popular. But, regardless we must start with something rational; elimination of legally possessed firearms isn't the path. I would rather loose a bit of privacy ensuring my doctor reports per a process if I show signs that can be, call it, critical than having someone determine what I am allowed to personally own.
Oh I understand and completely agree however as a law enforcement officer can you illustrate how we as a society now determine who is most likely acting under the influence and be detained / questioned / reported? Was not that an evolution of process that could be infringement of rights and now widely accepted for the greater good?Long term versus knee jerk is wise thinking. I agree that something has to be done, but giving up any of my freedoms isn't something I'm willing to do. I don't have a good answer unfortunately. I believe that any new laws compelling people, doctor's included, to report will be just another law stripping us of more privacy and won't actually help. If I'm not mistaken, there are already laws compelling doctor's to report.
Ya, I don't know either, be interesting to find out. Back in the 'Saturday Night Special' days .22 was popular but that's a long time ago. Speaking of 'Saturday Night Specials'...a few years ago my Aunt moved to assisted living. As we were moving her, getting the house ready for sale, and getting rid of excess stuff, she told me there was a handgun in a trunk or box somewhere. She said I could have it if I found it.It’s my understanding that the caliber associated with the most deaths is .22 This is what our instructor told us a few years ago. Never verified it tho.
Until you are forced to disclose your medical vaccination status....I don't think that's a "left thing". HIPPA is there for a good reason. You have a right to privacy. Like I mentioned before, where is the line and who gets to draw it?
The law is completely jacked up at all levels so I don't tend to comment too much on that. All I can say is that IMO there is nothing wrong with profiling. Rights are only for criminals now it seems like. We're in an upside down world in so many ways. The greater good is complete adherence to the US Constitution. Period. There are so many laws on the books now that a person can try as hard as they want to be a good, law abiding citizen, but still easily become a criminal by no true fault of their own.Oh I understand and completely agree however as a law enforcement officer can you illustrate how we as a society now determine who is most likely acting under the influence and be detained / questioned / reported? Was not that an evolution of process that could be infringement of rights and now widely accepted for the greater good?
completely agree!The law is completely jacked up at all levels so I don't tend to comment too much on that. All I can say is that IMO there is nothing wrong with profiling. Rights are only for criminals now it seems like. We're in an upside down world in so many ways. The greater good is complete adherence to the US Constitution. Period. There are so many laws on the books now that a person can try as hard as they want to be a good, law abiding citizen, but still easily become a criminal by no true fault of their own.
"Papers please". Repeat after me. I WILL NOT COMPLY. You might have misinterpreted my response. You HAVE a right to privacy, buy it is being infringed upon. The left is trying to take your rights and force you to do things like carry papers and proof of all kinds of things. Then on the other hand the scumbags fight against showing ID to vote.Until you are forced to disclose your medical vaccination status....
Too funny. Same story for me with my Grandmother In-law, but with one big difference. When she passed and we were cleaning her house my MIL gave me a true Saturday Night Special. It's a 1950 S&W J-frame model 36 .38 that used to belong to her husband who was a Sherriff in TN back in the 50s. Bluing is still perfect. One of my favorites.Ya, I don't know either, be interesting to find out. Back in the 'Saturday Night Special' days .22 was popular but that's a long time ago. Speaking of 'Saturday Night Specials'...a few years ago my Aunt moved to assisted living. As we were moving her, getting the house ready for sale, and getting rid of excess stuff, she told me there was a handgun in a trunk or box somewhere. She said I could have it if I found it.
Oh man, I was dreaming of a nice S&W, maybe a Colt...maybe even a Colt Python. Well I eventually found it, the bubble was burst, it was a German made 'Saturday Night Special' in .22 short.
I've got a model 36. They really don't belong in the Saturday Night Special' group. Saturday Night Specials were literally called 'junk guns' because of their poor material and build quality...this of course meant they could be sold cheaply in comparison. Believe it or not, back in the day some folks were calling racism over the banning of those guns. They said it deprived low income black folks of affordable personal protection, just another example of inequalityToo funny. Same story for me with my Grandmother In-law, but with one big difference. When she passed and we were cleaning her house my MIL gave me a true Saturday Night Special. It's a 1950 S&W J-frame model 36 .38 that used to belong to her husband who was a Sherriff in TN back in the 50s. Bluing is still perfect. One of my favorites.
I've got a model 36. They really don't belong in the Saturday Night Special' group. Saturday Night Specials were literally called 'junk guns' because of their poor material and build quality...this of course meant they could be sold cheaply in comparison. Believe it or not, back in the day some folks were calling racism over the banning of those guns. They said it deprived low income black folks of affordable personal protection, just another example of inequality
Before the internet, we grew up calling the j-frame .38 S&W The Saturday Night Special.I've got a model 36. They really don't belong in the Saturday Night Special' group. Saturday Night Specials were literally called 'junk guns' because of their poor material and build quality...this of course meant they could be sold cheaply in comparison. Believe it or not, back in the day some folks were calling racism over the banning of those guns. They said it deprived low income black folks of affordable personal protection, just another example of inequality