410 Sundancer/Express Cruiser and 400 Sundancer/Express Cruiser **Official Thread**

carterchapman said:
JVM - I found a way that worked for me: Leave the main hatch closed and open the genny hatch. Lay on the main hatch and reach down. I could change the oil filter, fuel filter and impeller pretty easily that way. One "Catch 22": Either order some spare screws for the impeller cover or be extremely careful unscrewing them - ask me how I know! LOL!
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Thanks for the tip Carter! I was planning on raising the main hatch and the genny hatch and removing the brace for the genny hatch then squeezing my old a$$ in there somehow but if I can get to all of that stuff your way it sounds much easier.
I'm very jealous of my friend with the 2005 420DA. He can have a small cocktail party down in his bilge. Searay sure got it right with that layout.
 
Sorry it took so long. By no means pretty but works like a champ.
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JVM225 said:
That sounds interesting. Do you have any pictures of it mounted?
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I don't have any pictures and it's not a nicely finished space. It kind of just sits there with support from a few tie wraps
 
That's his holding tank vent filter, he just relocated it next to his fuel switching control panel for easier access.

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i installed a longer hose and relocated it to the area where the fuel valves are. Ps. I cut my filter in half and refilled it with charcoal. It was actually just a piece of pvc with a sticker on it, a piece of foam on both ends and filled with fish tank type charcoal.
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I did the vent filter mod this past weekend, mine was already easily accessible, so all told it took me about 45 minutes to remove, cut in half, glue on the threaded ends, refill and reinstall. $15 for the charcoal (I used about 1/5 of the container, so can refill another ~4 times) plus about $4 for the PVC fittings. Very cost effective, when compared to a replacement cost of $80-100 each time.
 
I've pulled mine several times for service. I can't live without an icemaker though, so I can't help you with a fridge.

I find it's best to remove the left StarBoard door and the bottom latch bracket to free up room. Remove the side panel to the right of the unit, remove the screws from the bezel/front panel...

It will come out easier if you can slide the unit to the right a little before pulling it out. It's a tight fit, but she'll come out.
 
Hi all! I'm new to this site and thread..I posted originally in who's Who thread and was referred here! We are in the process of buying a 410 sundancer 2001 diesel. I have a couple of questions..The mid berth , what is in the cabinet under the couch ? It looks like a pull out trundle or something. Where do you store the cushion for the mid berth to make it into a bed?? Where do you store the cushion to turn the galley table into a bed? I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere, where is the best/least expensive place to purchase bedding for the master state room? How many people have you slept on your 410 comfortably? We've been on the boat several times but I've not had a chance to get in there & dig around to figure how everything works. I hope to this weekend! Sorry so many questions!! Looking forward to getting to know you!
 
This is our 5th season on our 2001 410, and I'll tell you what I know/do. The "cabinet" under the couch in the aft stateroom is really an access for the power actuator for the couch. If you were to store anything under there it would be displaced, or possibly impede the progress of the couch when deploying. We've not found anywhere to store the gap cushion for aft berth either, but I suppose you could stuff it under there when not using it. As far the filler cushion for the salon sofa...we keep it at home. We love just about everything about our 410, but have found it's very limited on storage. I look forward to hearing any good solutions other may have found.

-Tom
 
This is my first season with my 2002 410 Sundancer and we are loving it!
I also wouldn't put anything inside that pull out door under the mid berth couch that you don't want to get jammed up in there.
My filler for that berth came in a zip up canvas bag and I store it under the floor in the compartment closest to the galley fridge along with a canvas gym bag with all of my dock electric cord adapters. It's a nice dry space with nothing else in it.
I keep the fillers for the salon sofa under the salon sofa. It's a tight fit and it took a couple of try's to figure out how to get them in there through the access doors under the sofa by squishing them just the right way, but I got it figured out and they pop right back in to shape when I take them out.
So far my wife and I have been the only ones to sleep on the boat and we generally sleep in the master, but we've spent a night on each of the other two berths to try them out and each was able to accommodate the two of us.
Personally, I think the salon sofa is the most comfortable of the three berths when pulled out, but it's kind of inconvenient.
Bedding: Custom bedding is crazy expensive. So far we've just been using regular flat sheets in the master with some elastic with clamp type snaps under the bottom of the mattress to keep the bottom sheet tight. I think I paid about $5.00 for them at Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They aren't great, but they do the job.
We might break out the old sewing machine soon, make a template, cut up a flat sheet from it, and sew some elastic in to the edges to try to make a fitted sheet out of it. Neither one of us are particularly skilled with sewing, but we figured it's worth giving it a try before spending a fortune on some custom fitted bottom sheets.
For a top sheet, we find a regular flat sheet is fine.
We use a regular blanket that we store in the starboard closet when not in use, and fortunately our boat came with a brand new condition fitted spread/cover and matching shams that we just had dry cleaned when we got it. The cover gets folded and put in the closet in place of the blanket when we go to sleep at night.
 
JVM225 said:
This is my first season with my 2002 410 Sundancer and we are loving it!
I also wouldn't put anything inside that pull out door under the mid berth couch that you don't want to get jammed up in there.
My filler for that berth came in a zip up canvas bag and I store it under the floor in the compartment closest to the galley fridge along with a canvas gym bag with all of my dock electric cord adapters. It's a nice dry space with nothing else in it.
I keep the fillers for the salon sofa under the salon sofa. It's a tight fit and it took a couple of try's to figure out how to get them in there through the access doors under the sofa by squishing them just the right way, but I got it figured out and they pop right back in to shape when I take them out.
So far my wife and I have been the only ones to sleep on the boat and we generally sleep in the master, but we've spent a night on each of the other two berths to try them out and each was able to accommodate the two of us.
Personally, I think the salon sofa is the most comfortable of the three berths when pulled out, but it's kind of inconvenient.
Bedding: Custom bedding is crazy expensive. So far we've just been using regular flat sheets in the master with some elastic with clamp type snaps under the bottom of the mattress to keep the bottom sheet tight. I think I paid about $5.00 for them at Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They aren't great, but they do the job.
We might break out the old sewing machine soon, make a template, cut up a flat sheet from it, and sew some elastic in to the edges to try to make a fitted sheet out of it. Neither one of us are particularly skilled with sewing, but we figured it's worth giving it a try before spending a fortune on some custom fitted bottom sheets.
For a top sheet, we find a regular flat sheet is fine.
We use a regular blanket that we store in the starboard closet when not in use, and fortunately our boat came with a brand new condition fitted spread/cover and matching shams that we just had dry cleaned when we got it. The cover gets folded and put in the closet in place of the blanket when we go to sleep at night.
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Thanks for all of the info! Ill report back after I get in there and start rummaging around. Do you know where we an buy a new sun pad for the bow??
 
Ok, so,the engines are in fact not pulling from opposite sides. It just looks that way because the previous owner let thing go to crap and the handles are not indexed properly. The screws to indeed them are rusted badly. I don't want to get into fixing/replacing them yet. To many more important projects.
 
I have a 97 400. My question. The table that stores under the forward bunk, according to the manual, the base stores under the bed up side down. When I try, the pole is in the way of the drawers closing. What am I doing wrong? Should I be trying to remove the pole from the base? If so... Where does the pole store? Also the base would require tools to remove and I doubt Sea Ray would design a storage system like that.
 
Yes, you remove the pole from the base to stow the table. The pole goes in the cavity to the right of the drawers. There's a cutout in the floor to hold it and a strap about halfway up.
 
BTW, I store the base upside right and the pole upside down. After lifting the table off the pole, i make sure the piston is locked and then a give the pole a few solid thunks while standing on the base. It frees pretty easily.
 
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