I-Phone VS Droid and Boating Apps

Bel_Mar_Pointe said:
I'm not a big fan of the proprietary nature of many Apple devices, but the wife's I-pad is one cool toy.
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Just curious about what is non-proprietary about Android? I hear "proprietary" and "closed" about Apple all the time and I am curious about people's perception on this topic. What is exactly is proprietary about the iPhone and what is non-proprietary about Android? It might help the original poster's decision if they want to go with an "open" platform, whatever that means.

I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't get what people mean by this.
 
Tonka Boater said:
Just curious about what is non-proprietary about Android? I hear "proprietary" and "closed" about Apple all the time and I am curious about people's perception on this topic. What is exactly is proprietary about the iPhone and what is non-proprietary about Android? It might help the original poster's decision if they want to go with an "open" platform, whatever that means.

I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't get what people mean by this.
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Some quick examples would be Apples control of iTunes in terms of the versions of songs and artists allowed, as well their previous use of DRM. There is also a strict no pornography rule and they insist all applications that are offered in the app store must meet their development guidelines and approval process (as you must know from first hand experience).

I look at it as developing an application for a specific vendor, versus open source offerings, which is essentially what the Android OS is...there are pro's and con's on both sides.
 
Tonka Boater said:
Just curious about what is non-proprietary about Android? I hear "proprietary" and "closed" about Apple all the time and I am curious about people's perception on this topic. What is exactly is proprietary about the iPhone and what is non-proprietary about Android? It might help the original poster's decision if they want to go with an "open" platform, whatever that means.

I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't get what people mean by this.
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Because you can run iphone apps on a droid... wait, no you can't. Because you can run blackberry apps on a droid... wait, you can't do that either. Hey, how come it's so proprietary? It's kind of like saying... eh I didn't buy a diesel boat because it will only take diesel fuel.
 
mmcguire2002 said:
Some quick examples would be Apples control of iTunes in terms of the versions of songs and artists allowed, as well their previous use of DRM. There is also a strict no pornography rule and they insist all applications that are offered in the app store must meet their development guidelines and approval process (as you must know from first hand experience).

I look at it as developing an application for a specific vendor, versus open source offerings, which is essentially what the Android OS is...there are pro's and con's on both sides.
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So if you want porn and unstable apps that crash your phone then you should go with Android??

This whole notion of setting guidelines and standards doesn't make a device "closed", per se. Anyone is open able to develop on the platform. How is iTunes different than Amazon and the Kindle? I guess the Kindle is bad because you can only read books purchased from Amazon?

BTW, Apple doesn't restrict the artists/songs allowed on iTunes. The artists, or lack thereof, is based on contracts with the record labels and Apple.

As a developer I appreciate the standards that Apple has in place. It makes it easier to develop and enhances the quality and overall experience of the devices and apps....IMHO.
 
Tonka Boater said:
So if you want porn and unstable apps that crash your phone then you should go with Android??

This whole notion of setting guidelines and standards doesn't make a device "closed", per se. Anyone is open able to develop on the platform. How is iTunes different than Amazon and the Kindle? I guess the Kindle is bad because you can only read books purchased from Amazon?

BTW, Apple doesn't restrict the artists/songs allowed on iTunes. The artists, or lack thereof, is based on contracts with the record labels and Apple.

As a developer I appreciate the standards that Apple has in place. It makes it easier to develop and enhances the quality and overall experience of the devices and apps....IMHO.
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Good to get another perspective. I work in the Technology Industry and have a solid appreciation for Apples products. I have a MacBook Pro, iPad and an iPhone...but I do see apple as restrictive. There is a reason people jailbreak their phones and even though Flash will eventually go away, it is beyond annoying when websites can't be viewed on an Apple mobile device. Again, there is no right or wrong here. There are benefits and drawbacks to both sides.
 
Well, I did say "many Apple devices", not specifically the I-phone, which is the reason I said I would have been happy with one. In my experience, as a non-delevoper/programmer/etc, I have found many Apple products to be more restrictive, and/or proprietary for open-source software and connectivity. Take the I-Pad, while I think it's cool, has no standard ports, no flash support, can not be used as a drive, Apple controlled media and you even need a proprietary adapter for video out! Not doggin' on Apple products as they have had the most intuitive interfaces for many years, just stating my experience with thier proprietary nature. If you run all Apple devices, this is probably a non-issue.
 
Hans said:
Just wanted to add that a droid has a hotspot with the iPhone currently does not have. You can connect up to 5 wireless devices to the hotspot on the droid. My neighbors in the marina love me. I also have an iPad which I do connect through the hotspot. I love my Droid HTC.
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Can you explain this for a laymen? Is this a sort of teathering, Verizon charges for this?
 
Does anyone else hate iTunes as much as I do? The twice a month updates that make you re-download the entire program, the pushing of other software (Safari, Quicktime) during updates, and duplicating of songs. The day I finally got all traces of iTunes off my laptop was a liberating experience.
 
They have not been able / willing to deliver proper written code. It is not functioning well on Android devices either.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/mobile-flash-fail-weak-android-player-proves-jobs-right

Adobe does even a bad job in writing Flash for Apple Desktop computers as well.

Look at it this way: If you are Apple and have created a platform which people are buying as fast as you can make products for it, would you make your business dependable on some third party who can't get together? iPhone is out since June 2007.
So what is the hold up with Adobe? Do they still hope iPhone goes away?
Is Flash working on Windows mobil?
 
velooce said:
Can you explain this for a laymen? Is this a sort of teathering, Verizon charges for this?
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You can jailbreak your IPhone and also have a teathered wifi... Mine works very well... My data plan is grandfathered and I still have unlimited as long as I keep this phone or decide not to change plans...
 
Grimmspeed/Justin--
Speakers on transom are Sea Ray standard upgraded/premium stereo option on later model 340s. Having said this, you can get the JL speakers at most Marine/stereo suppliers. Many in our marina have added new speakers in transom, but for obvious reasons, they have not "dug-out" fiberglas/gel coat and have installed flush-mounted speakers instead.

Hope this helps?!! And Yes, I truly love the tunes when rafted up on a beautiful summer day!
 
All--
Appreciate the responses to original post of I-Phone versus Droid X (from a boating perspective). We ended up buying the Droid X, but your posts (particularly the Mi-Fi/tethering response) was VERY helpful and ended up being a deciding factor. FYI and regarding this subject, according to our salesman, both the I-phone and Droid gives you this capability, but you must pay a monthly charge for this capability on the I-phone and it comes free on the Droid X.
However, my prelim review of downloading navionics onto Droid suggests you can NOT download the HD version for Droid, but can for the I-phone. Moreover, apparently there has been some problems with Navionics apps and the Droid X. Has anybody with the Droid X experienced this?????
Again, thanks for your inputs--they were all very helpful and illustrative.
 
Al Gross said:
...according to our salesman, both the I-phone and Droid gives you this capability, but you must pay a monthly charge for this capability on the I-phone and it comes free on the Droid X.
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This is somewhat apples and oranges...no pun intended. The iPhone allows tethering which is an additional $20/month and this allows your to connect your phone to your laptop to use the data connection. Verizon -- for both iPhone and Android -- allows you to use your phone as a wi-fi hotspot. This means your phone broadcasts like a wi-fi router and you can share its data connection with up to 5 users. There is a catch...the hotspot feature is capped at 2GB per month even on the unlimited data plan.

A better option, in my opinion, is to get Virgin Mobile's MiFi mobile hotspot vs. Verizon's. $150 for the MiFi device, no contract, and pay $50/mo for unlimited data. Activate and de-activate the plan as needed with no activation charges. This is much more flexible than Verizon who locks you into a contract for the MiFi and charges activation fees.

http://www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-broadband/mifi-2200.html
 
Yep, I agree. This is one of the reasons I own a droid


govols019 said:
Does anyone else hate iTunes as much as I do? The twice a month updates that make you re-download the entire program, the pushing of other software (Safari, Quicktime) during updates, and duplicating of songs. The day I finally got all traces of iTunes off my laptop was a liberating experience.
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Tonka Boater said:
A better option, in my opinion, is to get Virgin Mobile's MiFi mobile hotspot vs. Verizon's. $150 for the MiFi device, no contract, and pay $50/mo for unlimited data. Activate and de-activate the plan as needed with no activation charges. This is much more flexible than Verizon who locks you into a contract for the MiFi and charges activation fees.
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I own a Verizon MiFi, one year into the contract. Agree, Virgin Mobile is the way to go, but they use Sprints network and they don't serve my area very well.

I have a 10GB monthly plan with the MiFi and use it also as our home's primary internet since we ditched the WildBlue satellite service and have no cable, DSL or fiber.

I get around the 5-user Wifi hotspot limit by using a router in repeater mode. The WiFi sees only one connection (from the router), yet I have 4 wired computers and a laptop all getting internet from it.

Plus, I can then take it on the road, or on the boat. Great little device!

Tom
 
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