Moriches Bay 2017

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  1. tlrlc

    tlrlc Member SILVER Sponsor

    174
    Sep 13, 2013
    Long Island, NY
    2007 310 sundancer
    mercury 6.2 horizon x 2
    vdrive/bow thruster
    I know about this Notice to mariner:
    Worsening shoaling conditions have been reported at the entrance to Moriches Inlet. It is considered unsafe for mariners to attempt to navigate this inlet at any time.
    Buoys are no longer maintained in this inlet. Shoaling has also been reported in Moriches Bay along the Long Island Intracoastal Waterway in the vicinity of Moriches Bay Buoys 17,18, 21, 26, 27, 28 and 29 extending the entire width of the channel at any tide level. The area from Buoy 17 to 21 is navigable only at high tide. The most severe area of shoaling can be found between buoys 26 and 27 and is less than 3 ft. Shoaling is also reported in the vicinity of Moriches Inlet East Cut Buoys 3E and 5E. Mariners should be aware that the Aids to
    Navigation in these areas have been deemed unreliable due to shoaling and mariners are advised to seek [COLOR=#67B045 !important]alternate[/COLOR] routes.

    i have talked to a couple people that have gone through but would like a newer update as im told going from west to east you now go down to inlet, across north side of beach and then possible use a ^ pattern to skip 26 and 27.... anyone have a pic of there course through here recently?
    we will be going though on 7/26 or 7/27 obviously trying to go at dead high tide as we draft 3'...
    i know some are going to say just go out FI inlet and back in Shinecock inlet but that adds a minimum 35NM to my trip... thanks
     
  2. PMC

    PMC Active Member

    Apr 10, 2009
    Long Island, NY
    2001 40 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 6CTA
    I have done both running that north cut past 26/27 and out the inlet. The shoal at buoy 26 is the worst of it, and is maybe 5/10 feet wide. This is what it looked like last year, so it all changes.


    General rule is time tide to the coast guard station, and take it slow. My feeling is with 3' you will be fine.

    Good timing on this post, I'm heading out that inlet on 7/28 (from the west)
     
  3. tlrlc

    tlrlc Member SILVER Sponsor

    174
    Sep 13, 2013
    Long Island, NY
    2007 310 sundancer
    mercury 6.2 horizon x 2
    vdrive/bow thruster
    well im going to see a friend who did it in a 28' sundancer this past week and get his information but will update after we go through on 26 or 27th if you want.
    hopefully we get more people to chime in as well.
     
  4. ShaneOnYou

    ShaneOnYou Member

    360
    Jun 12, 2013
    Merrick, New York
    "Shane On You II"
    2009 43 Sundancer

    "Shane On You"
    2008 310 Sundancer
    Twin Cummings Turbo Diesel Engines, 480hp
    Local Seatow cpt will guide you through.. they are around the area all the time as they are constantly pulling people off...


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  5. tlrlc

    tlrlc Member SILVER Sponsor

    174
    Sep 13, 2013
    Long Island, NY
    2007 310 sundancer
    mercury 6.2 horizon x 2
    vdrive/bow thruster
    yes im a towboat member and usually call before my trip out east but always looking for more local knowledge of area. Good advice Shaneonyou
    im always telling boaters to call seatow or towboat before any big trips and they will let you know some tips of area and will guide you through if available but i like to plan ahead and route my course.
     
  6. tdschafer

    tdschafer Active Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
  7. saopm

    saopm Member

    659
    Oct 6, 2010
    Great South Bay - Long Island, NY
    2007 340 Sundancer
    Mercury 8.1s Inboards
    I went out Moriches inlet and in Shinnecock today. It wasn't a full high tide this morning. The shallowest i saw was 10'. Once I went out I cut to the right to get around the breakwater. I would have stayed inside but the report were bad around buoy 26 and 27. I touched bottom there about 2 years ago.
     
  8. tdschafer

    tdschafer Active Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    How did you find the inlet? That CG bulletin was a bit scary! Also, how did you approach Moriches inlet? I had heard that the West cut down was shoaled over and that you needed to approach from the east cut. Thanks for any other pertinent data that you can provide. A group of us is supposed to head that way in a few weeks!

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  9. saopm

    saopm Member

    659
    Oct 6, 2010
    Great South Bay - Long Island, NY
    2007 340 Sundancer
    Mercury 8.1s Inboards
    I stopped for gas at the Reservation(2.67 gal). While I was there I talked to a fishing guy familiar with the inlet. He said you can go East or West when you exit the inlet. East is a shorter run to clear the shoal, but he said the party boats take the west route. I've only taken the west route and since that is what the party boats do, then I figured I'd do the same. Weather conditions were really good. Probably about 2'-3' rollers spaced pretty well. It wasn't a full high tide Saturday morning, but I had plenty of water. I think the CG has been putting out the same bulliten for a few years now regarded the inlet. From what I've read it seems the channel east of the island has gotten worse over the years and buoy 26 and 27 sound like a complete disaster.
     
  10. Robski97

    Robski97 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jan 15, 2007
    North Bellmore, NY
    44DA
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Guys, I run my boat from Merrick to Riverhead yearly. I run outside all the time . Spoke with seatow captain they said " ONLY A FOOL " would run tru here. They will NOT escort members tru this year as in years past. I ran into two people that went tru they state at dead high tide... They draft 28" turned a ton of sand . So u have to weigh ur options . If seatow says don't go u don't go . OR its not so bad.... Not so bad for who ?? There is an article somewhere that over the winter the shoal at 26 was so bad outboards had to be tipped up. Just my opinion. Safe then sorry.

    Rob
     
  11. JVM225

    JVM225 Active Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Group of 3 boats went about a week and a half ago. Seasoned Captains all. One ran aground in high tide.
    Most seasoned Captain didn't, but said he will never again try to go through Moriches Bay.
     
  12. tdschafer

    tdschafer Active Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    I think we will do what saopm did. Run down west cut & out the inlet before the "twenties buoys" crapfest.

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  13. Dani-Lu

    Dani-Lu Member

    389
    Apr 20, 2007
    Long Island - Great South Bay
    2001 410DA
    3126 Cats
    I am not recommending running inside, but we ran inside to and from Westhampton last week. I draw approx 40" and the 3 boats following me all draw 36" or more. We made sure to hit Moriches at Coast Guard High Tide. Heading east we went south from buoy "15" towards the inlet and then north towards buoy "24". Before we got to the channel buoy "24", Sea Tow met us and escorted us via the north/south dog leg (horse shoe) avoiding buoys 26 - 29. This is the route that was marked a few years ago, but only for one season. Supposedly it does not change much year to year. Not sure why they don't mark it every season if it holds enough water. I saved the track from following Sea Tow and followed it home at high tide and never saw less than 4.5 feet. I just wanted to let you guys know inside can be an option if the ocean isn't cooperating. Safe boating! Jeff
     
  14. tdschafer

    tdschafer Active Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    Thanks Jeff! I took that same route a few years ago to one of the Flotillas. I am hoping it is still stored on my GPS just in case!

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  15. Robski97

    Robski97 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jan 15, 2007
    North Bellmore, NY
    44DA
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Marine max is running a few small boats tru for the Montauk event. With I/o boats its a different game. Inboards have to be soo careful ... not worth it ..

    Rob
     
  16. dcwjd

    dcwjd Member

    132
    Oct 17, 2006
    Lindenhurst, NY
    2007 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 540
    Just went through today with my 48. Had my choice of following sea tow or tow boat as both were waiting at buoy 30. No issues at all taking the north unmarked channel. I saved the track so I'm now good to go. Had 4.5 feet of water or more and this was 1hr before high tide as I timed it wrong coming from Greenport.
     
  17. tdschafer

    tdschafer Active Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    We ran to West Hampton Bath & Tennis a couple weeks ago. We took the west cut down toward the inlet and that's where Towboat US met us. We ran past the channel & up the east cut then the north/south horse shoe that ended up at bouy 30. From there smooth sailing. We hit the bay at CG high tide and had plenty of water under us. The Towboat captain said that this route was good even at low tide. That north channel was showing me 6-10' of water at high tide.
     
  18. Robski97

    Robski97 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jan 15, 2007
    North Bellmore, NY
    44DA
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    So I guess the multi million dollar question is why cant the COAST GUARD get their shit together and mark the new path and screw dredging the loosing battle .
    Rob
     

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