Omicron

Dani-Lu said:
I am guessing here, but maybe because every child born received the other vaccines, or they were not allowed in school. Maybe this vaccine is not perfect, and better ones will be developed.
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Those childhood vaccines were real vaccines. They were active vaccines. Not experimental mRNA biotech.

If they wanted a real and effective vaccine it would be very different and probably as effective as the flu vax is, which is better than the Covid vax. Think on that.
 
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firecadet613 said:
Get your booster yet @sbw1? I hear Fauci said if you walk around with your thumb up your @$$ it's as good as the 4th jab....may want to start doing that. Fauci said it, so it must be true. You know, science. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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El Capitan said:
Those childhood vaccines were real vaccines. They were active vaccines. Not experimental mRNA biotech.

If they wanted a real and effective vaccine it would be very different and probably as effective as the flu vax is, which is better than the Covid vax. Think on that.
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I'm thinking the Pfizer vaccine is performing better than the flu vaccine. Trying to show the CDC graph of flu vaccine effectiveness.
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I'm figuring this covid vaccine will become a yearly deal for me just like the flu vaccine I get every year. I get the pneumonia vaccine every 5 years,. I think that's the period. And, I'm about to get the shingles vaccine after the first of the year. I've been "lucky" and have had it twice. Not pleasant.
I still don't get all the hubbub. No big deal to me.
 
El Capitan said:
I know the CDC intimately well. They used to be a customer of mine. I’ve met w their clinical and many layers of their management team.

I wouldn’t trust a single word they say especially about Covid nor their stupid graphs.

They are politicians.
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Then go pull up any flu vaccine graphs from whomever you want. They will all show similar results. My doc tells me the flu vaccine has been lucky to ever be 80% effective and that was pre-covid.
 
Jus Cruisin said:
Then go pull up any flu vaccine graphs from whomever you want. They will all show similar results. My doc tells me the flu vaccine has been lucky to ever be 80% effective and that was pre-covid.
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No credible clinician can prove flu vaccine efficacy. It’s propaganda.
 
El Capitan said:
I know the CDC intimately well. They used to be a customer of mine. I’ve met w their clinical and many layers of their management team.

I wouldn’t trust a single word they say especially about Covid nor their stupid graphs.

They are politicians.
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Wow - So you ran cat 5 for them too and you know them “intimately well?” In hockey you would be getting a 2 minute penalty for embellishment there captard….
 
Jus Cruisin said:
Humph.... That CDC graph was 41% ave.They sure are embellishing their #'s. Right? You brought up how much better the flu vaccine is over covid vaccine. The #'s in the hospital aren't backing up your claims.
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You said your doc stated flu vax 80%. I proved otherwise.

Lastly, hospitals lie. They are financially incented to report Covid infection and deaths. Not rehashing old well established facts w a newbie.
 
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El Capitan said:
You said your doc stated flu vax 80%. I proved otherwise.

Lastly, hospitals lie. They are financially invented to report Covid infection and deaths. Not rehashing old well established facts w a newbie.
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How much do hospitals get for every person they toss on a vent again?


El Capitan said:
You have many options and far more effective. Go get monoclonal antibody treatment. It’s easy, it’s cheap, and you don’t have to test positive. It is the best prophylactic to any virus on this planet.
Don’t just sit there thinking all you have to protect yourself is the damn vax.
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Unfortunately I got better, then worse, so I opted not to get the MABs. At that point, it was pneumonia not COVID so I doubt they would have helped.

@sbw1 if your looking for a box of rocks, look in the mirror. How stupid does one have to be to think this is normal and a good idea?

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Just talked to a friend and said him and his wife tested positive Saturday. Said they are feeling pretty good but can't go to work obviously. We stopped by his house for a few minutes Friday night but he was in bed. We were only there a few minutes to pick something up but we are both feeling fine. He is 53 and she is about 50 or 51. I'm the only one of us 4 that are vaxxed. He told me tonight that he will not get vaxxed and one of the main reasons he took his new job cause they do not enforce the vaxxing.
 
firecadet613 said:
How much do hospitals get for every person they toss on a vent again?

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A friend told me last year that their preacher was a hospital admin and said they got $37,000/person whether they were admitted or not. Even just walking in the doors with symptoms. I just posted in another thread that that same friend just tested positive this weekend.
 
I've noticed there are quite a few in these COVID threads who are turning into drug addicts, going from jab to jab seeking its protection.

Scared shitless of COVID, you're running to a failing vaxx as the answer to save you, versus reducing comorbidities and building your immune system strength.

1 - We were told it would take years for a vaccine
2 - We were told not to take it, as it was developed under TRUMP
3 - Then we were told you HAD to take it, as it would stop COVID...

Remember that?

4 - Turns out the vaxxed can spread COVID
5 - Turns out the vaxxed can be infected with COVID
6 - Turns out the vaxxed can die from COVID

It went from two jabs being considered fully vaxxed, to a booster is needed (will it end with 1 or 2? - doubtful). Now some countries around the world are on jab 4 to be fully vaxxed, while other world leaders are saying that their vaccination program will never end. And people think this is normal?

It is absolutely insane!

I have figured out one of two things - either COVID really is the lab leak virus and is setup to affect different genetic makeups differently or there are many different viruses / illnesses out there currently - all being called COVID (did COVID really make the flu disappear?).

Two good friends currently have covid now - one vaxxed and one unvaxxed. Both have very minimal symptoms. Is COVID what they have? Tests say yes - as did my wife's. But we know how accurate these tests are. The only other person I know who had it as bad as I did, has a very similar genetic makeup to me...and it took him well over a month to recover with multiple hospital trips. So I'd say my immune system did great.

We are all going to get this, including the vaxxed as you can see by all these vaxxed testing positive...the real question is how will you handle COVID?

I truly hope one day the masses will wakeup and see the madness the pro-covid vax camp is, turning people into drug addicts, trying to keep the populous scared and so afraid of COVID they will keep coming back for more and more drugs.

Keep in mind, Moderna's first FDA-Authorized product ever, is its COVID vaccine. Doesn't that make you go hmmm? It should...as should the FDA not wanting to release the data on the Pfizer vaxx for over 50 years...but alas, many here will get jabbed again in the coming days / weeks to boost your protection against Omicron...and I wish you well!

I now have antibodies so I'm set :D...
 
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boatman37 said:
A friend told me last year that their preacher was a hospital admin and said they got $37,000/person whether they were admitted or not. Even just walking in the doors with symptoms. I just posted in another thread that that same friend just tested positive this weekend.
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Yep. And the standard procedure, since their pulse ox is very low when they arrived - is Remdesivir and a vent. A procedure they will not likely make it off of alive, but will make the hospitals $$$, increase the deaths / scare factor.

Here's something interesting...FLORIDA is now recommending the same thing Dr Zelenko does...very interesting...

http://www.healthieryoufl.org/response.html

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firecadet613 said:
Yep. And the standard procedure, since their pulse ox is very low when they arrived - is Remdesivir and a vent. A procedure they will not likely make it off of alive, but will make the hospitals $$$, increase the deaths / scare factor.

Here's something interesting...FLORIDA is now recommending the same thing Dr Zelenko does...very interesting...

http://www.healthieryoufl.org/response.html

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See their recommendation on treatment. :D

One of several reasons I moved back to Florida from Illinois.
 
And California just announced today that the Mask mandate is back for all indoor public places. I've heard that there is science that proves masks are affective and a good idea and also that the science shows there is no effectiveness what so ever as the virus is so small that the standard cloth masks does not contain it. So, which is it? I would rather not wear a mask, be vaccinated knowing full well that I am still just as likely to contract or pass the virus only less likely to have serious illness from it. It is just the new reality. I only wish I was wired to be part of the scam and get rich off the opportunity the Pandemic has provided. My Dad raised an ethical, responsible tax payer though so.....
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