Recommissioning to do list

mrsrobinson said:
Going off topic here. I am purchasing a Coast Guard Documented boat. I will not be documenting it with the coast guard, rather register/title in my state.

The Seller is completing the coast guard bill of sale and states that's all he needs to do. I've read where the seller must also do this:

"A vessel may be deleted from documentation upon the request of the vessel owner or an authorized agent on behalf of the owner. The request must be in writing and must include the vessel's official number and reason for deletion. THIS FORM IS FOR U.S. COAST GUARD DOCUMENTED VESSELS ONLY. "

Is this correct? Does the current owner/seller need to do more than a coast guard bill of sale?
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If he executes a USCG Bill of Sale, you become the Owner and then have to do a Transfer & Deletion, although you may be able to do the Deletion directly. You should also require him to give you the current certificate. I think it is needed when transfering or Deleting Documentation. In any event, you can't apply for a state title until you have the Deletion paperwork back from the USCG. It depends on your state if you can do a state registration before getting the Deletion certificate.

Personally my recommendation is you would be better off doing the USCG BOS, filling out the transfer paperwork, keep copies of BOS, Certificate & application, and submit originals to USCG. You will still have to pay any state sales tax (if applicable), but you will be able to boat this season with copies of the BOS, the transfer application and the application receipt email you will get from the USCG Documentation Center. Next winter after the season ends, you can go through the deletion process and be ready for next year with a state reg.
 
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mrsrobinson said:
Going off topic here. I am purchasing a Coast Guard Documented boat. I will not be documenting it with the coast guard, rather register/title in my state.

The Seller is completing the coast guard bill of sale and states that's all he needs to do. I've read where the seller must also do this:

"A vessel may be deleted from documentation upon the request of the vessel owner or an authorized agent on behalf of the owner. The request must be in writing and must include the vessel's official number and reason for deletion. THIS FORM IS FOR U.S. COAST GUARD DOCUMENTED VESSELS ONLY. "

Is this correct? Does the current owner/seller need to do more than a coast guard bill of sale?
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The boat I own now was documented when I purchased it. The seller completed the termination of documentation form and sent it in. I did nothing on the termination/deletion other than wait 3 months...
 
Stee6043 said:
The boat I own now was documented when I purchased it. The seller completed the termination of documentation form and sent it in. I did nothing on the termination/deletion other than wait 3 months...
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I suggested the process I did because in many states you can't register a boat unless you have an existing title, a Manufacturers Statement of Origin (new boat birth certificate), or Deletion from Documentation paperwork. And given multi month wait for the USCG to get thongs done...
 
It's $450 to transfer the coast guard documentation and then $75 a year to renew. The area I plan to keep it in does not charge taxes. I am wondering if it makes sense strictly from a financial point of view to just transfer the documentation. I am looking a $1470 sales tax if I title/register it in my state.
 
mrsrobinson said:
It's $450 to transfer the coast guard documentation and then $75 a year to renew. The area I plan to keep it in does not charge taxes. I am wondering if it makes sense strictly from a financial point of view to just transfer the documentation. I am looking a $1470 sales tax if I title/register it in my state.
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USCG vessel renewal is $26 per year. $75 if you go through that (SCAM) service... they make allot of money off people that don't know you can go direct to https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/1175233.
 
mrsrobinson said:
It's $450 to transfer the coast guard documentation and then $75 a year to renew. The area I plan to keep it in does not charge taxes. I am wondering if it makes sense strictly from a financial point of view to just transfer the documentation. I am looking a $1470 sales tax if I title/register it in my state.
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It does make sense for many reasons besides financial.
One serious reason is that many lenders prefer Documentation because it provides a title that is recognized worldwide. That may not help you, but it could for a future buyer.

Renewals are an inexpensive and painless process.

you may not need state numbers on the hull

But, you may still need to pay sales or use taxes.

Compared to Mass state registration, documentation is easy. The registration process for our dinghy is a complete PITA.
 
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Thanks everyone, I didn't mean to take this thread off topic like this.

I called what I thought it was the Coast Guard documentation department today, they're the ones that told me $450 and then $75 a year to renew. Wondering who I called now based on the responses here.

After doing the math it makes sense to transfer the documentation. Not only will I not have to pay the 2% state tax but I won't have to pay annual property tax either.
 
mrsrobinson said:
Thanks everyone, I didn't mean to take this thread off topic like this.

I called what I thought it was the Coast Guard documentation department today, they're the ones that told me $450 and then $75 a year to renew. Wondering who I called now based on the responses here.

After doing the math it makes sense to transfer the documentation. Not only will I not have to pay the 2% state tax but I won't have to pay annual property tax either.
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If you want to document your vessel, call the National Vessel Documentation Center

https://maritimedocumentation.us/?g...A6ZHKJ3jBdBVk_FzqBKFhQy-vwenYqBAaAnEEEALw_wcB

$26/year. Up to 5 year renewal.

Jaybeaux
 
Just did all the zincs yesterday which means we're getting close!
 
Shaps said:
Yes, it is mid January, so call me an optimist.

What is on your Recommissioning To-Do list before your splash your boat in the spring?
(Those in warmer climates don't need to rub it in)
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One of the things that I discovered on my re-commissioning inspection was numerous ring clamps around the hoses to/from my AC pumps and strainer were showing signs of rust. So I've added that to my summer project list...
 
There might be some light at the end of the tunnel! After 7 months of calls and emails, my work packet is no longer pending, which they tell me means a USCG certificate is imminent!

Then on to stage registration and getting a sticker from the harbormaster. It never ends.
 
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