Should discussions of Politics and Religion be banned from CSR?

Should CSR ban discussions of Politics and Religion?

  • Yes

    Votes: 101 48.1%

  • No

    Votes: 109 51.9%
  • Total voters
    210
  • Poll closed .
comsnark said:
But in terms of serving as a birth certificate for legal purposes, that document is the real deal. That IS a state certified copy of the original. The state does not provide an option to get "the real original" or a "certified photocopy"
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Hmmm... must be different in Hawaii. In Maryland, they are not the same. For my federal clearance, the CLB was not sufficient and I had to go downtown to get an actual birth certificate.

So... Why was it so important that they see an actual birth certificate for me to get a security clearance and not important for them to see one for becoming POTUS? It just makes no sense.
 
Gotta love Fox... You know their doing a good job when they make the libs squeal like a Kojac. (sorry LA, no offense to Kojac intended)

They liked it a lot better when our choices were:
Left wing ABC
Left wing NBC
Left wing CBS
Left Wing CNN (Clinton News Network)
Left wing MSNBC
and the mother of all wrong left turns, NPR

One station allowing dissenting opinion is too many, it undoes all the brain washing that has been done.
 
If one is a liberal it is hard to miss what you are not curious about. The networks you note rarely ask a question conservatives want to know about. When queen Nancy was asked if Obamacare was constitutional she mocked the reporter and the networks mocked the question as well. All conservatives, independents, and many libs I know think this is a legitimate question.

A comment on the birth certificate issue: most people I know assumed any candidate on a ballot, not to mention the presidential ballot, would have their qualifications verified for the office they seek. I was shocked to learn it did not work that way. Who is supposed to verify the constitutional requirements are met?

In the absence of formal checks the media should resolve these questions but again rather than investigate they chose to mock the questioners.

MM
 
If one is a liberal it is hard to miss what you are not curious about. The networks you note rarely ask a question conservatives want to know about. When queen Nancy was asked if Obamacare was constitutional she mocked the reporter and the networks mocked the question as well. All conservatives, independents, and many libs I know think this is a legitimate question.

A comment on the birth certificate issue: most people I know assumed any candidate on a ballot, not to mention the presidential ballot, would have their qualifications verified for the office they seek. I was shocked to learn it did not work that way. Who is supposed to verify the constitutional requirements are met?

In the absence of formal checks the media should resolve these questions but again rather than investigate they chose to mock the questioners.

MM
 
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JediJD said:
Pack66Dad, part of the freedom of this country is to allow people like you to believe what you want to believe, regardless of the facts. Several times I've offered to let you defend any of your positions, or talk Nevada football, but you just keep leading with your chin.

Ever hear of a liberal burning books? Both sides have tried the Fahrenheit 451 education model (by the way, that's not the temperature of burning books). Religious people of every stripe try and censor ideas, and so do liberals when the topic isn't politically correct. Economic conservatives and libertarians are not book burners. [We could get into a philosophical discussion of whether believing the state should enforce your religion, through book burning or anything else, makes one a collectivist, but you are having trouble at a much shallower end of the pool].

And saying anything about propaganda from the left in this day and age is ridiculous. Not sure what planet you are on, but in the rest of the country, where both sides are presented, Fox at least offers a choice...and unlike you, I listen to all of them.

And frankly I think your rather rude to try and turn my post into another conservative vs. liberal free for all. This was actually funny enough that I showed it to my nine year old as an example of deflection. Yours don't qualify for the liberal/conservative appelation...but rather simply uninformed copy/paste. You have raised half a dozen issues and been absolutely skewered on all of them. Comsnark kept you from completely drowning (see, a boat reference) when you ventured into health care, and you didn't either read or comprehend either the health care studies you posted or the Der Spiegel economic analyses. Your last post on this was another great example of why open discussion is important...some poor shmuck might have read it and believed it without a challenge.

In one respect, I think you are right...there is no question that unqualified people shouldn't discuss politics or religion. Better to be silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Now to the important stuff...where do you think Colin Kaepernick will be drafted? Under rated? Over rated? I thought he looked awesome against Boise State.
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Sorry about the cut and paste thing. I now know, posting facts is way beyond the likes of you. I have mended my ways. If the mussel down at the dock can't understand it I don't post it here for y'all to read.
 
I agree that Journalists are not very inquisitive these days. This was a problem for more than just the last three years. . if you know what I mean.

Skibum: I have no idea how things work in Maryland. From the 10 minutes of research I did, it works as stated in Hawaii. And yes, the sources are like Factcheck.org, CNN, and Wikipedia. I find it via google. Sorry. Fox News doesn't appear to do this type of journalism. I don't have time to dig deeper personally.

Oh wait. . I guess I just need to add "fox news" to the google search term.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/29/hawaiis-gov-wants-reveal-obamas-birth-info/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/28/hawaii-declares-obama-birth-certificate-real/

Further: Do you think the Clinton presidential campaign wouldn't have checked this out as well? I mean these are the Clintons. You think they pull punches?

Ok. . done now. Really, really done now : )
 
comsnark said:
The state does not provide an option to get "the real original" or a "certified photocopy"
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Not quite correct, the person who the cert belongs to can request a copy of the original and then release it, which he has chosen not to do. It is not available by public request. That law has been in effect for some time in HI.

comsnark said:
Oh wait. . I guess I just need to add "fox news" to the google search term.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/29/hawaiis-gov-wants-reveal-obamas-birth-info/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/28/hawaii-declares-obama-birth-certificate-real/
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What is the point? Although these articles are both shown on the Fox News website, If you pay close attention you will notice they are Associated Press Articles, not written by Fox News.
 
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skibum said:
Gotta love Fox... You know their doing a good job when they make the libs squeal like a Kojac. (sorry LA, no offense to Kojac intended)

They liked it a lot better when our choices were:
Left wing ABC
Left wing NBC
Left wing CBS
Left Wing CNN (Clinton News Network)
Left wing MSNBC
and the mother of all wrong left turns, NPR

One station allowing dissenting opinion is too many, it undoes all the brain washing that has been done.
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comsnark said:
I agree that Journalists are not very inquisitive these days. This was a problem for more than just the last three years. . if you know what I mean.

Skibum: I have no idea how things work in Maryland. From the 10 minutes of research I did, it works as stated in Hawaii. And yes, the sources are like Factcheck.org, CNN, and Wikipedia. I find it via google. Sorry. Fox News doesn't appear to do this type of journalism. I don't have time to dig deeper personally.

Oh wait. . I guess I just need to add "fox news" to the google search term.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/29/hawaiis-gov-wants-reveal-obamas-birth-info/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/28/hawaii-declares-obama-birth-certificate-real/

Further: Do you think the Clinton presidential campaign wouldn't have checked this out as well? I mean these are the Clintons. You think they pull punches?

Ok. . done now. Really, really done now : )
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I think Clinton was told to "sit down and shut up" by the "puppet master(s)":wow: I don't think they (puppet master(s)) were totally sure Hillary could win, but they knew the "race" issue would elect BHO...This is strictly MY OPINION, why else would Hillary "lay down"! I mean after all, dead people usually wind up around the Clintons...lol

BTW Com, I don't think you pass this one up..lol
 
The unofficial reason for PFD's on boats is that someone might discuss politics or religion. The Tiki Bar and Holding Tank is the PFD's for Club SeaRay.
I for one need to see and discuss the views of today with people who share the same life interest.
The network news is trying to dumb us down. This was apparent yesterday with the same story on all the networks about the bum with the golden voice. What a waste of my time.
 
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Pack66Dad said:
Sorry about the cut and paste thing. I now know, posting facts is way beyond the likes of you. I have mended my ways. If the mussel down at the dock can't understand it I don't post it here for y'all to read.
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In order to have an intelligent discussion on anything, you have to begin by understanding the meaning of words in the English language. The word "fact" is a term of art, meaning something that is unchallengeable, agreed to be true, a given value. For example, Comsnark posted some facts about election returns. "Premises" are items that you believe to be factual, but which are not yet completely vetted. The conclusions in a WHO study or Der Spiegel article, for example, consist of a few facts and a number of premises. (Don't feel bad, even non-union types mistake the two terms on occasion). Reviewing every one of your posts, there is nothing you have posted on an economic or policy question in which your facts have been challenged (although your premises have been shredded and your conclusions eviscerated). Regrettably, there is a big difference between throwing this stuff around with fellow travelers behind a shot and a beer, and dealing with laissez faire capitalists who actually had to learn to read and think to compete in a free market (without the benefit of Davis-Bacon, McNamara-O'Hara, or Walsh-Healey).

I get 'ya about mussels. The problem is that, regardless of your politics, if you only surround yourself with stuff that you both don't understand and which just reinforces your beliefs, you create for yourself a bozone layer (that's the substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating) and risk becoming an ignoranus (someone who is both stupid and an ***).*

So, what did you think about Kaepernick's draft chances?


*Courtesy of the Washington Post.
 
MonacoMike said:
Pack66Dad that is the biggest pile of malarkey I have ever heard in my life. You can twist the facts all you want and I'm sure your buddies will dog pile the liberal for you too, but it doesn't make it true. Ever hear of a liberal burning books? yeah, neither have I. Its the so called conservatives who are always burning books and censoring information because to be truthful, people have to be kept ignorant to believe the conservative lie.

Liberals just want to change history by editing books they don’t like. Example below. I have never been aware of censorship of books for thought content by conservatives in my adult life. I have seen efforts to keep adult words and situations away from children, but that is not censoring.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110104/en_yblog_newsroom/huck-finn-gets-some-changes


And saying anything about propaganda from the left in this day and age is ridiculous. Fox News and the entire Murdoch empire is wholly dedicated to providing 24/7 nonstop conservative propaganda at every level.

I am exasperated with all the Fox bashing!!! Fox has unequivocally the most “fair and balanced” news on TV. I am sick of the ignorance that it springs from the left. If these complainers cannot decipher the difference between news and opinion they need to go back to class. What actually is Fox big sin? They put conservative opinion on the air. Their reporters also ask questions of elected officials conservatives want to know. No one did that before they did. They have won numerous awards for their news, given by the industry. They have also created a rating juggernaut by giving conservative voices a place to be heard. So who’s banning now? Liberals and their so called “fairness doctrine” to make it harder to express conservative thought.

As for Fox empire and Murdoch bashing as propagating “conservative propaganda” you are way off base on this one and need to get around more. Fox television network puts out some of the vilest material out there. Many family organizations complain to the FCC over their gross descriptions in shows in family hours on broadcast TV. Example below. If you think you think Fox is conservative based you would be wrong. They are profit based no matter the subject.

From Brent Bozell: Fox's "Family Guy" is always looking for a new low in sick jokes. They found one when baby Stewie and his dog, Brian, were accidentally locked in a bank vault. The baby orders the dog to eat the contents of his diaper. When the dog actually eats the baby feces, the baby vomits and then says, "Got some dessert for you." The dog then eats the vomit. The dog also licked the baby's rear end clean, so Stewie could boast to the otherwise empty vault that the dog "French-kissed my bottom clean."

Back to the point of my post that you commented on. This is the wrong forum to post political and religious diatribe, conservative or liberal. It should be a place to discuss boats and not be goaded into political arguments. And frankly I think your rather rude to try and turn my post into another conservative vs. liberal free for all.

I agree that we should keep politics to the pertinent points such as oil, water regulation, and fishing regulation etc. anything that is boating related not did you see this cut and paste trash.


MM


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I give a reasoned reply to histrionics and get no response. Apparently we have agreement Fox is “unequivocally the most “fair and balanced” news on TV “, Murdoch's empire is not “conservative based” and that conservatives do not want to ban political books at the local library but work to keep adult material away from minors.

MM
 
Covid 19 is nowhere near as infectious, dangerous or lethal as Politics.
 
PlayDate said:
Covid 19 is nowhere near as infectious, dangerous or lethal as Politics.
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Tell that to the 234,000 dead Americans from Covid-19.
 
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