460 DA Owners Thread

TheWolfTC said:
Same here...turned out to be the hot water heater high pressure relief valve. I couldn't figure out where the water behind the sofa was coming from all summer...drove me crazy!

Once I pulled it for winter storage and I was working on the exterior, I would hear the pump cycle for a few seconds AND water would come out the main line drain. As well, water was showing up in the bilge behind the sofa. I was totally baffled...until I removed the cover to access the hot water heater...and voila a crusted, leaking high pressure valve.

I found gallons of water in the trough just below the heater which could only be accessed from the small, salon floor storage compartment in front/below the fridge. Look down in there and you will see about a 3" hole...I got several extension pieces for my shop vac and slid them back into that hole and started sucking water out..a LOT of water!

New pressure relief valve installed and the problem was solved...no more water in aft bilge. Hopefully that helps!!
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Getting ready to do some work on the boat and addressing the pressure relief valve on the water heater. As I began researching where to buy the valve, i quickly learned there are several different sizes and pressures. Do you have an inside as to what size and pressure value I should buy?
 
Graham Lorimer said:
Just wondering.......... how many from this group have a digital watchkeeping system fitted to your boat that is reporting back to you by text message.

I would be most interested in the usefulness of these systems and what errors onboard does it report back to you when you are not on the boat.

Let me know


Graham
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Hi Graham - I have 3 Samsung Smartcams (bridge - looking aft towards the hatch, cockpit - looking across to the entry door, and main salon - looking aft to sliding glass door) along with 4 La Crosse temp sensors (fwd head, master head, galley and ER). All send alerts to either movement or temps below a set level.
 
All I did was change the Brass Jamaican lights to Chrome ones with LED. Nothing to much, just trying to de-gold the boat!

Josh
 
Hello,
I purchased a 1999 SR 460 last fall.
I just read all the comments from page 60. Great ideas.
I have been making a lot of improvements.
In winter storage I can't get power to the boat.
Must have 50amp. I have the Y cable, but both 120 volt receptacles are the same phase.
Has anyone attempted to add a 30 amp power cord hookup?
 
Jeff Pierce said:
Hello,
I purchased a 1999 SR 460 last fall.
I just read all the comments from page 60. Great ideas.
I have been making a lot of improvements.
In winter storage I can't get power to the boat.
Must have 50amp. I have the Y cable, but both 120 volt receptacles are the same phase.
Has anyone attempted to add a 30 amp power cord hookup?
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Try this:
https://www.marinco.com/en/p30-503
 
Thank you for the reply. I did purchase that and it doesn't work because there is an isolation transformer standard in the boat.
 
Ok guys, I have a friend that is looking at a 2002 46 DA. What are the things on this boat to look for? Need all of your expert opinions.
 
The electronics upgrade is finally complete. All the Raymarine outdated stuff is out and the latest and greatest Garmin gear is in. The E120 was replaced with a 8612XSV. The Standard Horizon VHF replaced with a Garmin 215 which also includes an intercom, hailer, and fog horn. The Raymarine Tri-Data and Autopilot controller where changed out with Garmin as well as all the internal parts. Raymarine open array Radar was replaced with a Garmin Fantom Dome Radar. Along the way we replaced two of the speakers in the cockpit stereo system and added two rearward looking cameras. Pictures to follow.
 
Jeff Pierce said:
Thank you for the reply. I did purchase that and it doesn't work because there is an isolation transformer standard in the boat.
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Correct. You need a Smart Y connection with two 30 amp plugs to a 50 amp. As long as the 30 amps are on different phases it works fine.
 
That is my problem. Every outlet in the building is the same phase.
I am layout wiring bringing in a 30amp cord, 30 amp circuit breaker and a double pole/double throw switch behind the electrical panel. Fair amount of work. Still checking the back feed potential to the isolation transformer.
 
ocgrant said:
Ok guys, I have a friend that is looking at a 2002 46 DA. What are the things on this boat to look for? Need all of your expert opinions.
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The 460DA was built from 1999 to 2005 when it was replaced by the 48DA, your boat. Different layout of course but the dimensions are almost identical except for deadrise. There were some early thru hull issues on the 460 that don't apply to 2002 and neither does the earlier balsa coring in the hull-sides. The boat has a minimally cored hull lay-up which adds strength and quietness but any "improvements" like underwater lights or additional transducers have to be done according to exact Sea Ray instructions.
By 2002 there is a standard hardtop and the optional hydraulic lift would be a GHS unit from Florida Bow Thrusters. Engines are most likely the Cummins 6CTA 450. This was the last year of the purely mechanical motors being used in the 460, although they found homes in the 42DA and bridge boats for a couple more years. Very reliable motors but you should have a Cummins survey done because the boats are often over-propped, particularly as they "gain weight" over their lifetime. 2003-05 had the 480CE motors that initially had some valve issues.
For 2002 I would check the hull moisture levels in the following areas: below the side air engine intakes, the stem beneath the bow pulpit, and check various stanchion mounts. Also this was the first full year of the standard ISO Transformer which takes up a bit more room ahead of the genny. Many 2002 versions had black canvas and less gold trim was used in the interior than previously. The electronics should have received at least one upgrade by this point.
All-in-all the 460 is a solid, comfortable and beamy boat, and 2002 is right in the mid-cycle of the production. All changes to the model had been done by then except for adding more power in the 480CE motors.
Hopefully other 460 owners will chip in with their opinions, you can't go wrong with any of the model years. This forum has a great group of enthusiasts and I hope this information helps your friend.
 
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Can't speak about the 2002 model but I can about the 2000 460 Sundancer. Really love the boat. Very comfortable and at 6' 2" I have all the headroom in the world to stand straight up in the cabin, except for the aft cabin...watch your head. This being my third SeaRay, I find it to be a very nice handling boat although it catches a lot of wind once it blows above 25 Knots. The best advice given to me by the previous owner was to watch the bow. If it starts to move in a strong wind, catch it before it gets away from you. As Jaws mentioned above, it should have had at least one electronics upgrade...mine did in 2006 but still old technology. Just finished upgrading mine. Expect to replace hoses in the engine room and most likely both heads will need some attention. I also found that two of the 5 speakers on deck had dry rot and had to be replaced. The water accumulator on my boat was cracked. Not caught by the surveyor because it is a difficult place to get to. SeaRay put in a plastic accumulator and I had mine replaced with a metal one. Best of luck.
 
Upgrade done at last. It keeps loading upside down...sorry. Tried everything I can think of to right it.
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Jaws said:
The 460DA was built from 1999 to 2005 when it was replaced by the 48DA, your boat. Different layout of course but the dimensions are almost identical except for deadrise. There were some early thru hull issues on the 460 that don't apply to 2002 and neither does the earlier balsa coring in the hull-sides. The boat has a minimally cored hull lay-up which adds strength and quietness but any "improvements" like underwater lights or additional transducers have to be done according to exact Sea Ray instructions.
By 2002 there is a standard hardtop and the optional hydraulic lift would be a GHS unit from Florida Bow Thrusters. Engines are most likely the Cummins 6CTA 450. This was the last year of the purely mechanical motors being used in the 460, although they found homes in the 42DA and bridge boats for a couple more years. Very reliable motors but you should have a Cummins survey done because the boats are often over-propped, particularly as they "gain weight" over their lifetime. 2003-05 had the 480CE motors that initially had some valve issues.
For 2002 I would check the hull moisture levels in the following areas: below the side air engine intakes, the stem beneath the bow pulpit, and check various stanchion mounts. Also this was the first full year of the standard ISO Transformer which takes up a bit more room ahead of the genny. Many 2002 versions had black canvas and less gold trim was used in the interior than previously. The electronics should have received at least one upgrade by this point.
All-in-all the 460 is a solid, comfortable and beamy boat, and 2002 is right in the mid-cycle of the production. All changes to the model had been done by then except for adding more power in the 480CE motors.
Hopefully other 460 owners will chip in with their opinions, you can't go wrong with any of the model years. This forum has a great group of enthusiasts and I hope this information helps your friend.
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Thank you Jaws... Found a 2003 tha that looks nice also what is your feelings on the 480CE motors with less than 1000 hours?
 
45Gunner said:
Upgrade done at last. It keeps loading upside down...sorry. Tried everything I can think of to right it.View attachment 82167
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Gunner, you should call Sam over at Technografic in Ft. Lauderdale and have him make you a wood grain panel to match your other OEM. Your new Garmin looks great.
 
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