The future of EVs? Maybe not so bad?

A year in and we are "winning". Kick the kids out in 2 years and we will be way ahead. In Wi, we are only "allowed" to produce 120% of our usage so yes Mike, I do. M
 
I worked for a guy (furniture retailer) that had 6 stores. He put solar panels on all of his buildings at a cost of about $420,000. After the systems were activated the company's electric bills actually increased. Neither the installer nor the power company could explain the reason. No winning there. They're out of business now.
 
my boro probably won't allow solar since they own the electric dept and use the rates as a taxation device. i have never seen any houses in my town with solar panels so wondering if they aren't permitted since it will take money from their pockets?
 
boatman37 said:
my boro probably won't allow solar since they own the electric dept and use the rates as a taxation device. i have never seen any houses in my town with solar panels so wondering if they aren't permitted since it will take money from their pockets?
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Out here in the peoples republic of newsome they do the opposite. Solar is required on every new home. Now they have to raise rates or tax those solar installations to recoup the money lost on the electricity bills to the power companies. It's such a sham.
 
My monthly bill is about $100. Our daughter the gypsy is staying with us a while till heading south for winter, hitting that hot flash age. Turning down AC. I am freezing, latest bill is $160. JFC. Can’t wait til she goes so I can be warm in my house and get morning coffee naked.
 
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No proponent of California in any way. My son is in process of moving from there to Arizona. Makes good money. Can’t afford it there anymore.
That said. I learned a lot while he was there.
CA is the 6th largest GDP in THE WORLD.
Think about that. California generates more money than anywhere in the planet than the top 5 countries.
Yeah. All our food comes from there. If CA collapsed we would all be seriously fkd. It needs to be fixed.
Y’all bitch about Biden or Trump? They are puppets to the CA governor.
It’s out of control and will drag this country down. DC or Wall Street don’t control this country, California does.
Be scared cause it’s no farking joke. A lot of states, mine included have enacted laws that everything California passed is automatically enacted in 14 states. The people that I didn’t elect in California are controlling everything that happens in my state. But I can’t do a dam thing about it cause I don’t live there.
Oh, you live in Nebraska a nice Republican hurricane hole not affected by those dam gay libs in CA. Hurricane Newsome is coming and you better run for your underground shelter. Stop being delusional.
California rant is done.
 
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Well said. It is no farking joke. I have lived in this state my entire life. My wife finally gave in and agreed to leave next spring. Vladimir Newsome will lose 6 figures in tax revenue. I wish others would follow. For now I am counting the days.


Pirate Lady said:
No proponent of California in any way. My son is in process of moving from there to Arizona. Makes good money. Can’t afford it there anymore.
That said. I learned a lot while he was there.
CA is the 6th largest GDP in THE WORLD.
Think about that. California generates more money than anywhere in the planet than the top 5 countries.
Yeah. All our food comes from there. If CA collapsed we would all be seriously fkd. It needs to be fixed.
Y’all bitch about Biden or Trump? They are puppets to the CA governor.
It’s out of control and will drag this country down. DC or Wall Street don’t control this country, California does.
Be scared cause it’s no farking joke. A lot of states, mine included have enacted laws that everything California passed is automatically enacted in 14 states. The people that I didn’t elect in California are controlling everything that happens in my state. But I can’t do a dam thing about it cause I don’t live there.
Oh, you live in Nebraska a nice Republican hurricane hole not affected by those dam gay libs in CA. Hurricane Newsome is coming and you better run for your underground shelter. Stop being delusional.
California rant is done.
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Our house is 1.5 story brick with newer vinyl windows and blown in insulation. First floor is about 1300 sq ft. Just me and my wife here. Our electric bill in summer is usually around $250-300. Winter it will drop a little. Usually about $125-150 in winter. We have a gas furnace, gas hot water and gas dryer. Last I checked we were paying .18/kwh but that was about 5 years ago.
 
Pirate Lady said:
....All our food comes from there. If CA collapsed we would all be seriously fkd. ....
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Don't fall for that BS. CA produces only about 10% of the nations food, but they are technically the "largest" source of food. If they vaporized tomorrow other states would step up production and fill that 10% void pretty quickly. Might take longer for some particular things, like strawberries, but we wouldn't starve at all. In fact, if CA vaporized, we'd also lost 10% of the population who'd be eating our food supply, so it would pretty much be a wash.

And they do generate a lot of money, but that's only because a few handfuls of very large companies are based there. They're based there primarily due to the favorable climate and the beauty of the scenery, and access to the Pacific Ocean.

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km1125 said:
Don't fall for that BS. CA produces only about 10% of the nations food, but they are technically the "largest" source of food. If they vaporized tomorrow other states would step up production and fill that 10% void pretty quickly. Might take longer for some particular things, like strawberries, but we wouldn't starve at all. In fact, if CA vaporized, we'd also lost 10% of the population who'd be eating our food supply, so it would pretty much be a wash.

And they do generate a lot of money, but that's only because a few handfuls of very large companies are based there. They're based there primarily due to the favorable climate and the beauty of the scenery, and access to the Pacific Ocean.

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And they generate lot of that GDP from Silicon Valley, the vast majority of their GDP is financial, insurance, real estate and professional services. This stuff is either local or can be moved anywhere…
 
There is great irony here. California and Herr Newsome are leading the charge in converting to "green" energy and "clean" EVs. Yet they don't have enough generating capacity to handle a bit of a heat wave. Have to keep the thermostat above 78 degrees, not charge EVs and refrain from using "large appliances". Is Newsome that stupid or just a hypocrite? (I already know the answer to that question, French Laundry during lock downs anyone?). I saw a report that if CA were to construct the number of wind mills needed to close their 1,800 MW generation gap half of the population of golden eagles would be wiped out and some other bird populations could become extinct. Green my ass.
 
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